The only thing I can think is that since the last tile was played, and there is not another round to be played, the leader wins the game regardless of the 2 point rule. That little bit should be wrote into the rules for the ending of a game.

I don't understand why the system gave me the win in #14916616. We went to the end of the tile set, all 125 tiles are played. At the end of the last round I have 1 point more than RaeRae, but I should need a 2 point advantage to score a win. In the rules I see no exception for a round which ends "in the middle" because all the tiles are gone. Could someone else have a look, please?

Really does not matter one bit. When we play a game that has different rules all over the world, GT tries to make a game playable for all. I think they have done a very good job.

From what I've read, it seems that people in England have different rules than people in America that have different rules of people in Australia.

The list is reasonably long of rules here than don't agree with rules some people play with, except that on this site, the site rules are the official rules.

Yes rules need clarification as current situation doesn't align with "official" rules

The explanations provided by others is correct, so I will just confirm that this is indeed correct behavior (and also a rather interesting corner case). When the round ends, the player(s) with the lowest pip count get a point. The bone count doesn't matter, only the pip count does. Typically this comes into play when the round ends because nobody can place a bone, but in this case one player was left with a 0-0 bone, triggering the same rule.

I'll look into clarifying this in the rules, but it is not a bug.

Explaining GT rules is easy, but that doesn't alter the fact they are wrong

What he said, and very well formulated. I have nothing to add.

GT rule - A round ends when one player plays the final bone in his or her hand, or when the boneyard is empty and no player has a valid play. At that time, the player with the fewest points on the bones in his or her hand is the winner of the round. That player scores one point.

Let me see if this explains the rule better. 1st of all, you don't get a point for playing your last bone. It only ends the round. Then, you count the pips in each hand. In this case both hands had no pips. So therefor each player gets a point. One player went from 53 to 54. The other player went from 60 to 61 ending the game. It is perfectly clear to me that playing your last bone does not give you a point. Playing your last bone will give you a point if the other player has a bone that has pips on it.

“A round ends when one player plays the final bone in his or her hand, or when the boneyard is empty and no player has a valid play.” - THERE. That’s the rules that’s just been quoted at me. The round ended there and then when I placed the last bone in my hand. It should not matter the amount of bones or pips/dots in the opponent’s hand, the only thing that should matter - they had SOMETHING left in their hand. They should have had a point.

The rules to me are clear, and the game did not go according to the rules, so I would liken to escalate this matter further - how do I go about it?

A round ends when one player plays the final bone in his or her hand, or when the boneyard is empty and no player has a valid play. At that time, the player with the fewest points on the bones in his or her hand is the winner of the round. That player scores one point.

That doesn't quite match "official" rules. Although generally true a player who places their final bone should automatically get the point, the above points only apply when all player still hold bones. You could argue if more than one player has the lowest score they score each get 1 pt, the rules don't cover what happens in that case.
If round ends with one player holding a 3-0 and the other 2-1, who gets the point?

as I said, applies when one player uses last bone.
It's not possible for both players to have bones left with zero pips

I complain often when the rules state one thing and the game is implemented differently. But that's not the case here. read the rules, section Round End :

A round ends when one player plays the final bone in his or her hand, or when the boneyard is empty and no player has a valid play. At that time, the player with the fewest points on the bones in his or her hand is the winner of the round. That player scores one point.

The only thing wrong here is that it doesn't say what happens when both players have the same number of points. Giving both a point is more logical since this game can be played by more than 2, but the rules should say so.

Well, that’s just wrong. Rare or not - the person who still has bones left, irrespective of number of dots on those bones, should not get a bonus point, only person who managed to get rid of all off their bones. I am very irked by “it’s kinda working” because it clearly isn’t.

No, because a round may end with both players still have bones. Giving the extra point to the one with the lower count makes sense.

Confusion with one player out and the other with zero count is hyper rare. No reason to tinker with a working software.

Looking at the "official" 5&3 rules, GT plays the British version as we don't use -ve points at round end a play to 61 points rather than fixed number if rounds.
In this version whoever "dominoes" out (uses all their bones) should get the bonus point irrespective of what their opponents hold. Number of pips left only applies if the round ends with pall players holding bones

This is very rare but has happened before. The extra point is given to the one with the lowest count of points.
In your game it is you with no bones, count zero, and also to your opponent, with one bone 0-0, also zero.

I checked out in the last round (no bones left, opponent had 1 bone left still. Point should have been awarded to me for get rid of the bones first in the end of that round, but was given to my opponent instead?

Please explain, thank you.

Thats interesting they are changed.
Thank you!

I just looked at my 4 completed games. All 4 of them now have the correct scores showing. So, that is fixed as well.

Thank you for your hard work.

I have games like that too. Don’t understand what is happening.

can someone look into this game I'm not sure what happened #14881309 should've lost this game?

not a bad idea for a variant, but let's fix the version we have first.
As I noted a few days ago you can't even view completed games, try looking at the game you posted

It needs something done

What if they revamped the game. Cut out the highlight move. Cut out the extra points for all same number. Cut out the minus points if you have to draw. Make it a simple game of matching numbers and the 1st to a set number of points win. I think the simpler game would be an enjoyable game. Any ideas out there?

yes it's a bug, the final scoring is wrong. it works fine until the final move is saved

I don't get it. I trail all through the game and finish with less points than my opponent. Yet the computer says I win. I don't get it. Is this a bug? Game number 14893848.

It's moving along well now thank you so much!

Thank you. We are 'movin with speed'.

Thank you

Thank you.

Good job! ;;thanks for the quick response.

Its screaming now

Thanks

It does seem better now. Thanks.

Me 2 thank u ❤️❤️

Thank you to GoldToken Support for working on the speed issue!
I have noticed that it is better.

I don't think its GT they are targeting, I think it's the servers site (that GT and many other sites use).... Least I hope its not GT only.

Hmmm

For sure! What's in a gaming site?

It is a bit curious as to why they’d target GT!

Send them Goldtoken Coins and tell them they're bitcoins! Maybe they'll go away.

It's getting bad

as has been explained by Tomas. GT ids being targeted by DDoS attacks. The purpose of these is overload the servers and cause the site to slow down or completely freeze.
Whilst measures can be put in place to block these attacks, hackers often find another way round so it's likely to keep slowing up until they get bored of attacking the site.
Why they are targeting GT is a bit baffling unless they are trying to extort money

Me too

Been having that 2 tonight

It's back to being slow again.

Slower than yesterday.

slow again

Still slow again.

No change for me but I wasn't on earlier.

Sadly agree - its back to where it was performance wise

I agree Sea Dreams...it will work for a few moves, then slows down again, very annoying.

Yes, so am I. This is extremely frustrating.
Is anyone looking into it?

I'm still having issues, it works fine for a few turns then slows down again

I agree. Thanks for your hard work!

YES! Many, many thanks!

Much better. Thanks. Glad for the discussion because I thought it was my connection that was bad, and that my gear needed work.

Absolutely, hard work. We all appreciate your time and expertise. All is well in our Gold Token world.

I agree. Thanks for your hard work!

Whoever has fixed that may I please say thank you. It seems to be fine now.

Me too. Thank you for fixing the problem.

Me too

me also!!

Quicker for me!! 🏃

Is it just me, or is the site significantly faster this morning?

DAaaaaaa.......Maybe they need a few hundred more games that hardly anyone plays!

I sent Tomas a request, asking if we provided the tournament numbers or game numbers, if it would be possible for him to edit the timeout limit. Will keep you posted. Meanwhile Tomas is on top of it and trying to get this resolved. Hang tight please.

~~Mary Jo

I agree too, but I don't know if a global time-out period can be modified once it is defined for a game.

It is terrible this morning

I agree. I suggest timeouts be disabled for all games until this problem is resolved.

Not only slow but keeps timing out. Any comments from management? Server issue?

I think the 60 day time limit in the Olympics should be disabled until this issue is addressed due to the fact it takes a minute or more to play just one game.

yes, on and off over the years GT runs very slowly.

Really bad this morning.

Doesn't matter if I use a computer, phone, or tablet. They are all so slow that playing the games isn't even fun. Very frustrating! I don't have the patience or time to keep up with all my games.

can you say turtle slow?

I have cleaned it all out still slow...

Nice and quick in Toronto

I’m in West Virginia. It’s still slow here.

Slow in Michigan too

slow here too.

slow in central ny

And it'still slow here in the US East Coast.

Still slow here in Australia. Are we still being cyber attacked?

rolling along a lot smoother now! muchos gracias

Thank you for explaining that actually helps, somewhat. Hope everything can be worked out. Thanks again for all you do.

still slow

Read Mecir s reply

Exact same issues here. I went through your same clean up and the problem still exists.

Yep, still slow.

So far we're still being DDoS-sed

For those of us who didn't//don't know what DDOS is......

DDoS stands for Distributed Denial of Service, which is a type of cyberattack where multiple compromised computers flood a target, such as a website or server, with excessive traffic to disrupt its normal functioning and make it unavailable to legitimate users. This overwhelming traffic can cause the targeted service to slow down or crash entirely.

Yeah, someone is hitting us with a DDOS attempt. Adjusted some things, let's see how it goes.

maybe its time for tune up

wow

Same here

Yes, me too. I recently changed internet provider and thought oh no, the grass isn’t greener on the other side. 😂

A bug with viewing past moves on completed games - you can't!, just an empty board. Past moves works fine on active games
#14881370
#14881361

plus the final scores are completely screwy

That's great news! And I'm happy to find I'm not the only one lol

Tomas is looking into it.

Same here, fine for a few moves then it slows down

Same here - on my android phone and my apple laptop (sometimes the laptop is slow and phone isn't - this time its both)

same here..

As everyone else said. A lag after the beginning click to a game.

Same here. I did a clean out, checked my setting, then realized it was on GT only that it was happening.

Its like a lag...has been for sometime for me...

In the past few days, I noticed noticeable delays between each click. I diagnosed my end by restarting the internet router and restarted PC.
Thank you!

Ok sorry bout that

We are looking for possible variations of this game, and it's not near as buggy as Domino's. So far it's been easy fixes. However this is not a bug so please post on the Tri tiles discussion board. That is where we will be looking for possible variations to include.

As it is, I won't include it in the Olympics. Still bugged and very very long.

I just wondered if it’s possible to make a shorter version of this game for tournaments?

eliphont551 is right, clearing the cache is usually the solution for this sort of display problems.

I've refreshed several times but now am having the same issue with Dominos game #14802016 so maybe it is something on my end. I'll play around with it. Thanks!

Did you try refreshing your screen or clearing your cache?

Double Nine Fives and Threes is showing only a blank screen.

It's white turn to play either 4 or 1.

You must specify the move.

I'm seeing a 6 and a 1.

"3" what? Stones, points?

Game # 14908096. A 6 & 4 on dice and only move 3

Thanks.

Should be fixed

Did anyone look at this?

It is a bug. But no worries, Tomas is working on this. I will extend the time on this game so you don't time out.


~~Mary Jo

in game #14836298, double twelve five & threes, it is stuck .. I am unable to place tiles on the double-9 end

Reading the rule, talking about the end of a round “ all the points held by others are awarded to the winning player”
At now I have just ended a few round, and in all of them the points are not awarded to the winner, but they are subtracted to the loser.
Game 14872884 move number 18 and 42.
Game 14872883 move number 10 and 36

In game #14870844, I won with a flush over an avalanche and got 278 stones. The game however showed my opponent winning and the game ending when it should go on to another round. Can that be corrected?

This is not a bug report. I just wanted to express a big thank you for fixing the Grabble games where we can exchange ALL letters at one time

Ah, good catch, fixed. The points shouldn't have been subtracted, either, that's fixed too.

Any answer?
I've noticed the same problem in the NEW Trio tiles tournament too

Reading the rule, talking about the end of a round “ all the points held by others are awarded to the winning player”
At now I have just ended a few round, and in all of them the points are not awarded to the winner, but they are subtracted to the loser.
Game 14872884 move number 18 and 42.
Game 14872883 move number 10 and 36

I have restarted the TrioTiles tournament, hopefully this resolves the issue! Please report if the problem with the incorrect starting player persists.

I have several games in the tournament where my opponents have played even if there was a bug, and they have started with a -25
As it’s not fair, is it possible to fix those games too?
14879525 14879526 14879540
Probably the games with Lorry too, but he hasn't already moved

Tournament game Game #14879514

I had to pick up tiles to start -- the third tile was the 5-5-5, yet it didn't allow me to play it and I had to pass / save with -25 points.

Is this the same bug everyone is experiencing? This has happened in several of the Trio Tiles games I'm playing.

saying heck with this, same thing happened to me, going to resign all my games until this is fixed

Game #14879524

Wrong number, you gave 7 digits. games had 8 digits since, uh, quite a while ago.

Doesn't seem to be fixed.
#1487952 has 2 triple tiles but still wants me to draw. As do several other tournament games.
I feel the tournament should be restarted

I have had this just happen to me…. in the last 4 or 5 games. Starting off with a 25 pt deficit…. Not fair…

Fixed these

Fixed for games that will start from now.

It is solved

It won't let me place a tile in game 14879495

Same problem in three games in new Trio Tiles tournament (14879537 14879526 14879532)

I feel like these games should probably be reset and restarted.

Thanks

wallywalter I have put extra time on that game, so you won't time out to give Mecir time to check into it.

What should I do with game 14876917? I have two days for make my move

Did you notice if you received -15 points on your first move, katja? In my game I had drawn 2 cards when I noticed it had given me minus 10 points so I quit drawing and posted on this bug board.

I had to draw three tiles and pass my turn the first move, but then the second move it highlighted the tile with all 3s on it and wanted me to play it.

Hmm, strange ... fixed that game at least!

I have the same problem again in game 14876917 and there's nothing to do.
I'm waiting for Mecir

I just checked again and found that I have a tile with the same 3 numbers but it's telling me I have to draw.

I just had this same thing happen and I had two tiles that had all the same numbers.

In #14876945 on the first move in the game it says You have no valid move available. Click here to draw a tile. Is this the same problem that was solved in the problem below that was posted by wallywalter? If not, should I be expected to draw a tile? I'm confused.

Thank you!!!

Fixed - your opponent should have been the first to play.

You have reported it, now we wait for Mary to wake up Mecir. Or with some luck Mecir looks at this board since it's a new game and bugs may happen.

Of course it's my turn, and surely I don’t have a valid move as I should “draw a tile”.
So this is definitely a bug.
What shall I do?

Valud tiles should be highlighted green.
I don't think the selection is the problem, but not having a valid tiles on your opening move. The rules state your highest sum tile is you don't have a triple, so it's impossible not to have one

I know, very annoying. Tablets and "smart" phones have been around almost for 20 years and they still haven't come up with something to cover this basic need.

Some of us don’t have a mouse and play on tablets

Lol, are you sure it's your turn to play?

Just pass the mouse cursor over your tiles. When you reach the right one the arrow of the cursor becomes a hand.

In game 14872885 I have to draw a tile as first move of the game.
In the rules there's written “ During the first turn of a round, the player must place the qualifying tile - that is, the same-number one or the highest sum one” and so it seems impossible that I don't have a qualifying tile.
Where am I wrong?

Having more points doesn't matter if you had 11 wrong guesses.

Your right...it dropped again already....can you give her the win as she has more points please?

Ok...thanks

I did restart the game, but then realized she had 11 incorrect guesses and hung her man. Anyhow the game has been restarted, but most likely the database will end it again because of the number of incorrect guesses.

Game was over before the 300 points and gave me the win when it should have gone to opponant....please give her the win....Why does this keep happening??....Thanks

Ok I was concerned about it wouldn’t let me make a move after they declined. It’s moving on now. Thank you.

Your opponent has denied the draw and continued to play. I'm sorry but we don't delete those games.

Please remove this game from my game sheet. I can't just go to next game because it gets hung up on this game every time. Thank you

Seems this game froze up after I offered a draw and it came back to me. It says pick my card to play but it won’t let me play a card.
#14669361

Thanks to T-Rex. I didn’t see it until he posted here. Pleased it worked

Yes, I see now what you mean. I've completed the move.

I'm new to this game. Thanks for your help.

My king cannot move beyond square 58. The game does not allow me to capture the piece on square 50.

I've captured the king but cannot move beyond square 58.

Approved

Well done. I can see it now

once it is approved

Well done. I can see it now

First, R:64-58-10-15-63 (or 14-62).
Then (either way), W:57-64-24-8 WW.

You may be trying to force 58-2 or something similar on your second jump to avoid the loss.
Can't do it—I'm sorry.
You must take all your jumps.

— Mo 21/7 2025

Yes it looks like you should jump the king and then the single piece.

#14704962

On turn 27 I've a forced move to take my opponent's king on square 59 and then his piece on square 50, but my king is stuck on square 58 unable to complete the move. I don't know if this is an error on my part or a glitch in the game.

Cancel this question, I answered it myself. Have a good day.

How was this game won after 3 wins? Game number: (#14811789) Thank you.

I've discovered my mistake that the move was not completed by myself. Apologies for the confusion.

I'm unable to move a piece on turn 170 in Animosity game number #14559034.

The game sheet appears to indicate I've completed the move and advises me to save the move and go to the next game.

Thanks.

Beautiful! Thanks.

It has been moved "upstairs" as it were and will hopefully be fixed soon.

I agree with this complaint.
I do have the size-adjustment option, but the screen is normally huge to the point of being ridiculous.
It should be somewhat comparable to the other games here.
I am trying to promote Nine Men's Morris here at GoldToken and thereby promote the game site too, but this problem is working against me.
I think a lot of players here play on an iPad.
Attention to this problem would be appreciated.

— Tu 24/6 2025

Attempting to play this game and it won’t on my iPad screen and there is no adjust graphics option to make it smaller.

Sounds similar to my recent question that went unanswered.

#14778737
Can someone please explain what happened here, I seem to have lost a hand and been declared the winner. We both have enough stones for further rounds, why has game #14778737 ended?

Game should be over wit hBelfast Queen at 213 points....Please give her the win and end game....thanks

The game has now ended with me as the winner with 166 points so please give the win to her with 306 points.....thanks

Its sitting at 306 points.....the win should go to Dolphins77....So please give them the win.....thanks!

In game #14733959, we both had the same hand and split the 114 stones. However rather than another hand, it showed my opponent winning although I should have the 114 stones. Seems like a coding error as I never did go to "0". Thanks for looking at it.

It is , thank you.

This should now be fixed.

Thank you!

I have sent Tomas a note regarding this and will add to your game time so you don't time out.

yes thank you. for me it hasn't reset to those stats. that's why I can't make a move . game won't let you bid anything below zero. period. and no option to pass.

[Nine of Fire] [Six of Arrowhead] [Four of Club] [Five of Fire] [Eight of Arrowhead]

agony of deFeet (current bet 12 stones, 484 stones left):
Clivia (current bet 11 stones, 1 stone left):
Friday2008 (current bet 12 stones, 272 stones left):
prime mover (current bet 10 stones, 118 stones left):
feeco (current bet 12 stones, 68 stones left):

Player 1: agony of deFeet (1304 Friendly) [Clock: 3:22:14:] - 484 stones
Player 2: Clivia (unrated) [Clock: 6:00:58:] - 1 stone
Player 3: Friday2008 (1372 Friendly) [Clock: 9:15:15:] - 272 stones
Player 4: prime mover (1467 Provisional) [Clock: 2:03:26:] - 118 stones
Player 5: feeco (1364 Friendly) [Clock: 5:22:41:] - 68 s

This is what I see.

You are right, I don't see that.

you might not be able to see what I can see. everybody has a dash in front of their score, Clivia has two dashes because its a negative number (-9) trust me this is why I cannot make my bid, its happened before. she's supposed to be eliminated.

That is not a negative score. All the scores have a - (dash) before the number of stones remaining agony of deFeet (1304 Friendly) [Clock: 3:20:44:] - 484 stones
Player 2: Clivia (unrated) [Clock: 6:00:58:] - 1 stone

I think it's to distinguish the Clock time and the player's stones left.

I cannot place a bet , because Clivia has minus 9 points and should have been deleted out of game since her score is below zero. she is still 'active' and not been crossed off. thank you -Nancy

One of the presidents removed Grover from the club so now the tournament will move on. Thanks for everyone’s help : five:

catmane is next in line, anyone thats a president.

Sorry I meant to say smelly feet Does anyone know who runs this Club?

furryfeet hasn't been on since 2019 btw

Well the owner is blackangus which has passed and BettyAnn is next in line as president and she has passed. I'm not sure who runs the club. I did send another president furryfeet a message but not sure he knows how to do that or not.

Wow, she;s been gone 4 years. I miss our talks on the phone.
Have the club owner remove her off of Ladder and Team games in the club.

Is there anyway to move these games on. Grover is deceased and is still in the games. #14757234