Is there a name for this variation of the Cross Opening?

11-15 23-18 8-11 27-23 9-13? Red usually plays 4-8, 9-14 or 10-14.

I do not think the 9-13 line has any particular name. It is a good move and one I have used in major championships to win with, the last occasion beating Terry Thomas (former Welsh Open Champion) at the Mind Sports Olympics. So, not a bad line

Thank you Lind. I hadn't seen it before. I expected 4-8 and was going to play 23-19, but with 9-13 there isn't the hole on 8 so Red can play 11-16 and after exchanges I didn't like the look of White's position after 31-26 to get the checker back since after 23-27 32-23, 4-8! looks bad for White.

Correction: hole on 11 after 11-16...(D-line).

Probably confused people with my last two posts.

Here is the line I was commenting on:

11-15 23-18 8-11 27-23 9-13 (instead of 4-8) 23-19? 11-16! (Of course Red cannot play 11-16 if he had played 4-8 because of 18-4) 18-11 16-23 26-19 7-23 31-26 23-27! 32-23 4-8! does not look good for White.

If Lind says 9-13 is a good move then I want to try it!

Some nice play on it in Lees' Guide. I think it is by Swan and Adamson but I might have the names wrong as I have not looked at Lees' Guide for about 30 years.

9-13. is to draw fast... I will move 10-14 its hard for red. but. if white is not a pro player. he lose the game...

Uh oh...

I played 18-14 and after 10-17 21-14 he played 4-8 and it is my move. Pray for me.

lol

Thank you again Lind for the reference to Lees' Guide Online.

I have found one game with the preceding moves mentioned above...

[Event "Lees' Guide p.35u, Swan/Adamson"]
[Black ""]
[White ""]
[Date ""]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
11-15 23-18 8-11 27-23 9-13 18-14 10-17 21-14 4-8 23-18 12-16 24-20 8-12 28-24 6-10 25-21 10-17 21-14 2-6 32-28 6-10 29-25 10-17 25-21 1-6 21-14 6-10 30-25 10-17 25-21 7-10 21-7 3-10 18-14 10-17 26-23 1/2-1/2


I'm following this move order in my game (with analysis as to why the moves were made).

Downloadable versions of the book here: http://archive.org/details/completeguidetog00lees

Hi Robyn,

Thank you so much. Yes, that is the play I was thinking about. The fact that I could remember it was Swan and Adamson proves that I am not going senile quite yet, lol. There is some other play on this line shown in the 19th American Championship book. Again, I have not looked at this book for many years so could be wrong. I do know that there are some lovely lines of play off the 9-13 route.

Best wishes,

Lindus.

How do you find out who has The Move, or First Move (the opposition in chess)?

you put the pawn in your hand, and let the player guess. if got the pawn. he or she first..

That's different from what I learned. When it's my move I count the number of pieces in my King row columns and if it's an odd number I have the move.

Richard Pask prefers the more descriptive term "opposition." Having the move, of course, is an advantage, except when it isn't. It's a concept that is often described but seldom really explained, and can be very valuable and yet very misleading.

...take three goblins and stir well...( Oldbury's Move Over page26 )

Great book!

The position below is from the Cross Opening where Red has erred on his fourth move with 9-13? Here are the moves

11-15 23-18 8-11 27-23 4-8 23-19 9-13 and the game continued 26-23 6-9 (G-line attack) 30-26 9-14 18-9 5-14 32-27 1-5...





White to play. What is the move that sets up the winning shot?

19-16 12-19 23-16 11-20 22-17 11-20 22-17 13-22 25-4 white wins

Excellent John.

Take a look at the board, if you were White, which two pieces would you want to hold back in your King's Row and why?

Checkers on 30 and 32. Red would need to form a bridge to get to the King Row.

This one is nice...

I was going to put the solution here but I won't spoil it, it's just too much fun. If you need a hint, a slip is combined with the in and out.

Easy one!

For novices and those not familiar with the numbered squares on a checkerboard:



White checkers on bottom with higher numbered squares. Double corner on right (28/32), single corner (29) on left.

The White to move and win diagram at the top of this thread involves three moves by White to win.

The shot begins with 14-9, forcing Red to play 5-14. White then gives up another checker with 21-17, forcing Red to play 14-21 and now White plays 30-26! Red must crown with 21-30 and now White crowns with 6-2! After Red is forced to play 30-23 White clears the board with 2-11-20-27-18-11-4.

Has anyone seen this video?

Watch the trailer here:

http://www.amazon.com/King-Me/dp/B00CLO3V4K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8

It's already available on vudu.com and itunes, see my checker maven blurb for links (checkermaven.com).

Of course neither of those sources works with Linux so I haven't watched it yet But the movie seems well regarded in the checker community.

From Millard Hopper's Win at Checkers.

For beginners. Top players will see this immediately.

good job robyn

27-23, lol.

For a player like Lind that diagram was simple.


Here's another.

Very nice slip shot and a white win on the move. I will let other players see if they can spot it. These types of slip shot wins are essential to know and master.

thank you for the diagrams, Robyn Hode! Very interesting.

Yes, very well done. Many thanks for the diagrams and interesting play on them. I don't know how you post the diagrams like this. Well done indeed

well, I think the answer is here, mr Lindus Edwards. as It says first you have to have your photo uploaded on server. there are dozens of them on your choice. but The General principe is the same as photos posted, say, in the ACF forums.

http://goldtoken.com/games/wiki?wiki=Platinum%20photos

22-18, game over.

yes, it resembles the first diagram in shot.

("Skywalker") is correct. And yes, Gamerazer it is a similar shot.

The moves for begginer-intermediate:

White 22-18, 13-22 and now 15-10, 6-15, then 18-11, 8-15 and then 25-11 and White wins. Black piece on 4 is blocked by White piece on 11. Black must play 5-9, then 29-25, and whichever way Black moves, to 9-13 or 9-14, is blocked by White's 25-22.

Another one coming up...

Here's another slip shot. Two kings on the board and White a checker down:

Edit: two kings for Black and one king for white.

19-15.

19-25 and red kings are yours with blocking of dead 5. multiple jump.

oops my mistake - 19-15

No, neither.

Joking. Yes, that is one solution.

What's the other?

19-15 10-19-26 then 27-24 then multiple jumps by white king with stopping on 14

or you can start with 27-24 then 19-15 the result is the same.

You can also begin with 27-24, then 20-27, 19-15, 10-26 and then king multiple jumps (32-23-30-21-14) and dead man on 5.

Aye

People underestimate how beautiful a game this is.

Checkers, not this game on the diagram. My father was from Arkansas and taught me the game as a child. I enjoyed it, but never truly appreciated it till I became an adult.

all these numbers look like some kind of secret code

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Really, what if someone doesn't want his/her regular games, or some of them, to be viewed by other players (except by GT Support)? Of course, Tournament games should be seen by everyone. I know some game-sites which regular games can be hidden from viewing by players. I think it's a good feature. they call them the private games.

by regular games is private...

on less you clik to make all you can see it...

dama1 is 100% correct about this; all games are private, unless you make them public during the game creation process. What "private" means is the chat is not seen by others.

that's right, Badger! All chats are private unless you make them public during the invitation creation process. but what about the games themselves? I think that would be good to have them hidden too if desired.

I guess I'm as to why you would want to hide your games

Because my play is so bad

I am unaware of any game sites allowing the hiding of games, but regardless, there's good reason to leave them visible. Among the many reasons: players love to study games, see how you play, what techniques are used, and to see how far ahead good players look or calculate. Studying tactics will improve anyone's game a whole lot faster than rote memorization of boatloads of opening variations. In fact, studying and practicing tactics will improve your game a whole lot quicker than any other kind of game study (although studying endgames runs a really close second). If you learn to recognize tactical opportunities as they present themselves, you're going to start racking up more wins. The next step, of course, is learning how to create those opportunities, but neither of these happy circumstances will occur if you don't even begin a program of tactical study of your own and other players games.

The main competitor site allows hiding non-tournament games. All kidding aside I'm not sure what I think about that. Some checker players say that they don't want their "cooks" to be "stolen" but it seems like once you've played a certain line, it's out there anyhow ... at least nowadays. Perhaps 150 years ago it mattered...

wooow, sorry, I didn't check this thread for several days. It seems that I accidentally unchecked "unsubscribe" box above.

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