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Perhaps...
Posted by unbeatable on 28 Feb 2015 at 4:28AM
Mr.Nimoy and Mr.Fischer are enjoying some 3D chess Smiling
     
Re: Perhaps...
Posted by Lion Rampant on 2 Mar 2015 at 2:29AM
I've often wondered how that was played....
          
Re: Perhaps...
Posted by Big Giant Head  on 2 Mar 2015 at 3:13AM
The rules are available at the boardgamegeek website.
Chess Ladder
Posted by AndyD on 26 Feb 2015 at 2:47PM
I joined a 'chess ladder', but can't find a way to challenge another member. Would someone please tell me how to go about it?
     
Re: Chess Ladder
Posted by eliphont551  on 26 Feb 2015 at 2:56PM
Your game will automatically start when there is an available player. Thumbs up
          
Re: Chess Ladder
Posted by Oakheart on 26 Feb 2015 at 3:42PM
Hey Andy. The ladder works automatically if you win you move up if you lose you move down. Takes quite a good long time to move up if you play like me.
     
Re: Chess Ladder
Posted by APINK on 27 Feb 2015 at 3:28AM
go to the players profile and invite them.
Zurich
Posted by MikeRoane on 17 Feb 2015 at 8:11PM
Anand defeated Nakamura today.
     
Re: Zurich
Posted by unbeatable on 19 Feb 2015 at 12:25PM
Nakamura took the top prize after beating Anand in an armegeddon hame...it appears they added the A game at the last minute....had to talk Anand into playing...Anand would've won without that game
2800!
Posted by MikeRoane on 17 Feb 2015 at 1:52PM
Congrats to Naka. Fischer quit playing. During his 20 game winning streak, it was calculated Fischer played at a 3,000 rating!
     
Re: 2800!
Posted by APINK on 17 Feb 2015 at 2:52PM
Fischer could have been greater than what he was.
     
Re: 2800!
Posted by Bobbyb1947  on 17 Feb 2015 at 6:39PM
Yes indeed Fischer most probably was at 3000! I remember when Judy stole a game from Mr.K and received an honorary title of Int.Senior Super Grandmaster! If the beloved Max Euwe was still with us I have no doubt that he would have put that NEW title on the books in a Chicago heart beat! As a matter of fact I personally believe that this title is on it's way in and that all of us will see it in our lifetimes!(Especially with Magnus on the scene!) LOL to us all!! And for those (on the top two rungs) I've nicknamed "our magnificent seven" what an awesome goal for them to pursue!!!! LOL to us all!
          
Re: 2800!
Posted by APINK on 19 Feb 2015 at 9:19AM
Bobby Fischer would have been better mentally had he had a wife and kids.
               
Re: 2800!
Posted by Dionysos  on 26 Feb 2015 at 6:03AM
Well, when he was at school, Bobby Fischer had a crush on Barbra Streisland, apparently, they used to exchange "MAD" comics. I think their noses were intertwined!
Hyfan hou in College
Posted by APINK on 17 Feb 2015 at 5:34AM
This lady needs to either finish College Or Quit and play full time Chess. It costs too much money to enter those tournaments not to win the big Prize money! She needs to focus her energy on 1 or the other. She is wasting time and a lot of money!
     
Re: Hyfan hou in College
Posted by Bobbyb1947  on 18 Feb 2015 at 11:24AM
If I was a gal in today's jungle I'd definitely opt for getting that diploma FIRST! After all 10's of thousands can obtain college degrees these days but how many can win the big money playing chess? The answer? You could most probably count them on the fingers of both hands!! After all after playing chess for a living can become a living Hades! I play one game professionally and that's my beloved "Game of 21!" One thing I have going for me is simply my true love of the game. And at any given time there are 4000-5000 of us who who can do to the enemy what they are doing to 40 million other poor souls! None the less we still are a "few" more than the number of fingers on two hands!!
          
Re: Hyfan hou in College
Posted by APINK on 19 Feb 2015 at 9:18AM
some of those matches cost like 25K just to enter. All the players who lose get nothing to pay the 2 winners. I would not pay 25,000 to lose! She can beat Magnus. She is the only woman that can. She has like a 30% chance of beating him.
Zurich Chess Challenge
Posted by unbeatable on 15 Feb 2015 at 1:39AM
Nakamura defeats Caruana Smiling
     
Re: Zurich Chess Challenge
Posted by APINK on 15 Feb 2015 at 3:33AM
and the Prize money?
          
Re: Zurich Chess Challenge
Posted by Dionysos  on 15 Feb 2015 at 5:49AM
At first, I looked at it, and came to the Goldtoken club, but there isn't a Zurich chess club in Goldtoken! Silly me!
               
Zurich Chess Challenge
Posted by APINK on 15 Feb 2015 at 2:58PM
You are the owner You can change the name If you so choose. You have the power.! King
     
Re: Zurich Chess Challenge
Posted by unbeatable on 16 Feb 2015 at 3:49PM
With his win over Karjakin today Nakamura is the 1st USA player to reach a 2800 rating. I don't know what the prize money is. Perhaps Mr and or Mrs Google can assist you.
Gibraltar Chess Festival
Posted by unbeatable on 5 Feb 2015 at 12:31PM
Nakamura takes top prize
hello
Posted by APINK on 1 Feb 2015 at 5:09AM
who else will be there.
     
Re: hello
Posted by Lion Rampant on 3 Feb 2015 at 4:42AM
You can get all the relevant info by logging into www.chess.com
          
Re: hello
Posted by APINK on 3 Feb 2015 at 6:41PM
why don't u just tell me?
               
Re: hello
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 3 Feb 2015 at 9:59PM
the caro kan is a bad opening ;o)
                    
Re: hello
Posted by Lion Rampant on 4 Feb 2015 at 6:13AM
No The Caro-Kann is not a 'bad' opening,it's just fallen out of favour with
today's GM's
                         
Re: hello
Posted by APINK on 4 Feb 2015 at 6:16AM
It's not aggressive enough!
                    
Re: hello
Posted by APINK on 4 Feb 2015 at 6:15AM
You are too good for the Caro Kahn very few GM know it well enough to be successful with it. There is just better openings out there. Playing chess
                         
Re: hello
Posted by Bobbyb1947  on 4 Feb 2015 at 10:49AM
yes the Caro Khan does appear to be a somewhat "restrictive" opening. There are some players from 1400=2500 who prefer closed games. As for me I like it when I am playing players rated 200 pts.plus over me. I like to close up and then obligate them to come in and get me! This modus operandi gives me a slim chance of getting what I so badly need. A DRAW!!!!!! LOL
                              
Re: hello
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 4 Feb 2015 at 8:58PM
OK I was just poking fun at Apink, The Caro Kan is an excellent opening I have used it successfully for years.
                                   
Re: hello
Posted by APINK on 5 Feb 2015 at 11:53AM
oh really Mr. Grims when I won that 1 game against you. I was so happy! The Caro Kahn is not the most successful opening for black. I will never use it again.
                                        
Re: hello
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 5 Feb 2015 at 4:08PM
lol, no the Caro Kan is not for you, but it is a very good opening for experienced players.
                                             
Re: hello
Posted by APINK on 5 Feb 2015 at 7:02PM
very true It's not for me. I like the Sicilian; The French; Ruy Lopez; English Opening and the Philidor. I hate the Caro Kahn.
                                                  
Re: hello
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 6 Feb 2015 at 5:47PM
all good openings, the French is not for me as black anyway. Sicilian has about the same winning percentage as the Caro Kan but it results in more decisive games, so if you have to have a win and a draw would be as bad as a loss then the Sicilian is the choice. Unfortunately white has so many systems to play against it you have to prepared for a lot.

play openings that feel right for you, but trust me the Caro-Kan is formable in the right hands.

I had very poor results with the Sicilian until I reached the rank of expert it is complex, I had better luck with the Center counter defense, now known as the Scandinavian and that was when it was considered a second rate opening

if you study chess, solving chess problems and endgames would likely help you the most.

                                                       
Re: hello
Posted by Oakheart on 6 Feb 2015 at 7:47PM
Thanks
                                                            
Re: hello
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 6 Feb 2015 at 9:43PM
not sure for what but, you are welcome
                                                       
Re: hello
Posted by APINK on 6 Feb 2015 at 9:47PM
The French is so much easier than the Sicilian. Fischer and Kasparov I think were the best Sicilian players. The French I don't think is that good of a opening against the top 5 GM of the world.
                                                            
Re: hello
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 6 Feb 2015 at 10:09PM
don't think we need worry about playing the top 5 players in the world.
                                                                 
Re: hello
Posted by APINK on 6 Feb 2015 at 10:47PM
unless you are Bill Gates!
                                                                      
Re: hello
Posted by Dionysos  on 7 Feb 2015 at 1:44AM
He is Microsoft, though, not a chess player! I don't even think he plays chess, but am not sure. If so, though, not as a Grand Master level.
                                                                           
Re: hello
Posted by APINK on 7 Feb 2015 at 2:46AM
wrong my friend. He played Carlsen 1 match and he did not prepare himself. He lost in 71 seconds and in 9 moves. A very humiliating performance on international TV
                                                                                
Re: hello
Posted by FragileKitty  on 7 Feb 2015 at 9:20AM
Here's their game:

Gates vs Carlsen

1.e4 Nc6
2.Nf3 d5
3.Bd3 Nf6
4.exd5 Qxd5
5.Nc3 Qh5
6.O-O Bg4
7.h3 Ne5 "A cheap trick", as Carlsen called it himself. White has a huge advantage w/ correct play.
8.hxg4 Nfxg4
9.Nxe5?? (9.Re1 +- creating a flight square for his king and White wins a piece)
9...Qh2# 0-1
Millionaire Chess Open 2
Posted by unbeatable on 1 Feb 2015 at 2:57AM
Nakamura & So will be playing. Satellite (qualifying) events are being formed in South Africa,Kenya,and Nigeria.
The youngest to reach a 2700 rating...
Posted by unbeatable on 29 Jan 2015 at 2:02PM
is now Wei Yi from China.
     
Re: The youngest to reach a 2700 rating...
Posted by Lion Rampant on 29 Jan 2015 at 2:27PM
I would like to see him in a match against Carlsen......
          
Re: The youngest to reach a 2700 rating...
Posted by Rogue Trooper on 29 Jan 2015 at 7:20PM
Is he wearing google glasses?
Knock offf a Man
Posted by Bobbyb1947  on 28 Jan 2015 at 6:59AM
Well the last time I heard of that was in my beloved home of America! Some heavily set lady who loved Chess and shotput throwing was out in the woods practicing her shotput throwing! Well as fate would have it we had a VIP from another country horseback trotting in the woods and was heavily guarded by his own guards. They were expecting s firearms attack! Little did they expect a miniature canon ball to catch him in the side of the head and send him to the ground. Sounds about as crazy as an American gentleman suiting up in armor and actually having A FOR REAL JOUST AGAINST A 350LB. UNDEFEATED KNIGHT FROM BULGARIA! WEll the Bulgarian was unhorsed and went flying into a pool of MUD!
Women's World Championship...
Posted by unbeatable on 27 Jan 2015 at 4:37PM
Will be held in Sochi,Russia...64 player knockout...hopefully Irina will Krush the competition Thumbs up
     
Re: Women's World Championship...
Posted by APINK on 27 Jan 2015 at 8:06PM
I want to see her knock out some men.
CHESS LADDER
Posted by APINK on 14 Jan 2015 at 11:09AM
The higher you get the harder the horses; I have to race against. I am in the middle of the pack now! Smiling These ladders are not easy!
     
Re: CHESS LADDER
Posted by Bobbyb1947  on 15 Jan 2015 at 12:52AM
Yes yes yes these ladders are a study of the survival of the fittest!!!! And APINK let me just say that I have a feeling that you're on the right track! Keep up the fine work!
          
Re: CHESS LADDER
Posted by APINK on 15 Jan 2015 at 4:25AM
sometimes it's just luck of the draw of who you get!
          
Re: CHESS LADDER
Posted by APINK on 15 Jan 2015 at 4:29AM
What's with the name bobby1947 like Bobby Fischer?
               
Re: CHESS LADDER
Posted by Stmhawk  on 16 Jan 2015 at 12:38AM
All you have to do is look at bobby1947's profile to answer your question, pinky. His name is bobby and he was born in 1947. Usually that is the first thing to check before you ask someone about their profile
                    
Re: CHESS LADDER
Posted by APINK on 16 Jan 2015 at 3:25AM
Smiling ready to get Pinky again?
                         
Re: CHESS LADDER
Posted by Stmhawk  on 16 Jan 2015 at 4:14AM
Anytime before the pink fads away
                              
Re: CHESS LADDER
Posted by APINK on 16 Jan 2015 at 4:16AM
The APINK is not fading away anytime soon. It's a multi million dollar brand name. How much is ur name worth?
Fischer and Kasparov
Posted by APINK on 10 Jan 2015 at 8:11PM
How were their games alike? How did they differ. Who had the better E4 games and other openings like Sicilian ect......Playing chess
     
Re: Fischer and Kasparov
Posted by Bobbyb1947  on 11 Jan 2015 at 3:11AM
APink some fine questions! We all must remember that Bobby was a 20th century player! let,s bring him and train him 21st. century gifts! Mainly Fritz 14,Houdini,Rybka and on and we go! Give Bobby 6 months to train with these "toys"! Now we would see some Chess!!!! As for e4 games we would see many draws or another hr. to pass a pawn! Bobby Fischer and myself were both born in Michael Reese hospital on the outside of downtown Chicago! Best of luck to all of us!!!! Bobbyb
          
Re: Fischer and Kasparov
Posted by APINK on 11 Jan 2015 at 5:53AM
Yes; If Fischer would have been trained by a GM like Kasparov was just imagine how much better he would have been.
          
Re: Fischer and Kasparov
Posted by unbeatable on 11 Jan 2015 at 5:57AM
cool birth trivia Smiling
               
Re: Fischer and Kasparov
Posted by Lion Rampant on 11 Jan 2015 at 2:47PM
Kasparov wrote a treatise about Fischer in his six volume series "My Great Predecessors" i.e his
fellow World Champions. Of all the tomes,this one was the most eagerly anticipated. However,having not read the book,
I cannot say whether Kasparov lauded or loathed his illustrious forebear Smiling Perhaps someone here has read the book in question
and can give us a comment(?) Smiling
Tata Steel 2015
Posted by unbeatable on 7 Jan 2015 at 4:24AM
starts in 3 days. Go USA folks!
     
Re: Tata Steel 2015
Posted by unbeatable on 12 Jan 2015 at 6:25PM
Aronian and Carlsen both lost today
          
Re: Tata Steel 2015
Posted by Lion Rampant on 13 Jan 2015 at 6:11AM
" It's not enough to be a good player,you must also play well"
                                                           -  Dr  Tarrasch
     
Re: Tata Steel 2015
Posted by unbeatable on 13 Jan 2015 at 4:58PM
6 of 7 games in the challenger's section were decisive today!
     
Re: Tata Steel 2015
Posted by unbeatable on 23 Jan 2015 at 4:09AM
Sam Shankland has lost 1 of his last 68 games Thumbs up
          
Re: Tata Steel 2015
Posted by Lion Rampant on 24 Jan 2015 at 2:50AM
That's an impressive record... Smiling
     
Re: Tata Steel 2015
Posted by unbeatable on 26 Jan 2015 at 3:46AM
Carlsen won the Master's section. Yi won the Challenger's section.
7 tips to spot a cheater
Posted by MikeRoane on 2 Jan 2015 at 6:05AM

















When I was on the internet chess club they had that feature where you could stop the chat of your opponent. It was a good thing. I will admit that fewer player talk "smack" on this site than the other sites. MikeRoane









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7 tips to spot a cheater
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 1 Jan 2015 at 1:44AM
  this has been on here before...
I will just write tip number one, because I dealt with it from time to time...at Chess.com you can see the 7 tips... some are in my profile in my chess tips...that inspired me to write the first tip...and there are people from here there too and you have seen it....see what a great site GT is.
1. Impatience with opponents, cheaters push their opponents to make a move, to hurry up when the game is set to a three day a move.
                           number one...this pushes my buttons.   
                     of 7 tips.    it is in my profile...after 27 years of Chess,
                              3600 games...here's a game I won't play...
people who are new to Chess should be on the look out for this...I know most of them/ new tricks will be created...
                                              and some people maybe unaware of this...
Don't let someone be a chess bully to you, using words as weapons... Knight Jarlynn
     
Re: 7 tips to spot a cheater
Posted by Lion Rampant on 1 Jan 2015 at 5:27AM
The simple.most effective way of dealing with 'pushy' opponents is
just to ignore them. Play at your own pace. If it becomes too aggressive,
report the offender to GT Management who will deal with it.
          
Re: 7 tips to spot a cheater
Posted by Lion Rampant on 1 Jan 2015 at 5:30AM
The Laws of Chess forbid any harassement or intimidation of the opponent
with penalties reaching as far as the loss of the game. This applies to
online games as well as real time.
               
Re: 7 tips to spot a cheater
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 1 Jan 2015 at 6:40PM
LR is 100% correct.
GT plays by FIDE RULES.
conduct of players...
No Noise or Interruption is ''Allowed'' and giving information, disrupting the game and using information, as noise to disrupt, as shown, not asked for, is a no/no and could receive a penalty. There must be total quiet in the playing area. No upsetting words, to the opponent is allowed... to affect the players concentration, during his clock time...when the game is in progress.
GT plays by FIDE RULES.
your clock time is your time...not allowed to be disrupted.
as a diversion, to change the outcome of a game.
It is disrespect to the Tournament people, and to the players.
           last comments.
                    
Re: 7 tips to spot a cheater
Posted by Guanarteme  on 1 Jan 2015 at 8:16PM
The proper rules to be applied are those of correspondence play. I know of no correspondence league that forbids comments along with a move. Attempting to model GT to OTB play, rather than to the rules of CCLA, Golden Knights or other mail play organizations will not work. Many players enjoy conversation, and one would have to assume that the intent of a comment is to disrupt.

If a player requests no conversation during a game. that should be honored. Some players, however, enjoy conversation, and interacting with players from other parts of the world is part of their motivation.

By the way, how does your interpretation of "during a game" apply to communications not submitted with a move? If somebody makes a remark that upsets you in a forum, and that person is at the time playing a game against you, how does that apply?

Finally, I have received many a comment during a GT game, from "this looks hairy" to "this looks drawish". I am not saying this is appropriate, and in an OTB game the second would be considered s draw offer. But most of the players who make such remarks are not trying to disrupt. Likewise, there are players who manage to upset their opponents and do so on purpose without breaking the rules. Incidents involving dark glasses, unlit cigars or flashy ties are part of the lore of chess.
                         
Re: 7 tips to spot a cheater
Posted by Lion Rampant on 2 Jan 2015 at 2:33AM
There should be a device whereby chat can be disabled if a player so wishes.
Chess.com have it on their website. Maybe GT can follow suit (?)
                    
Re: 7 tips to spot a cheater
Posted by Dionysos  on 2 Jan 2015 at 8:05AM
I often have some records on whilst playing, I know it's not "FIDE RULES", but it's only me that has it, nobody in Goldtken plays those FIDE rules, as it's not a "face to face" game anyway. I also chat whilst playing chess - but obviously not chat TO my opponent, as he/she doesn't hear anyway! If he/she says no interruption, then I don't anyway.
     
Re: 7 tips to spot a cheater
Posted by Guanarteme  on 1 Jan 2015 at 7:13AM
I have seen the opposite point of view discussed in other forums. Not in terms of rushing a move, but I find it sensible to point out (once) that a position is a definite draw and that you know how to win it. In fifty-four years of chess, (OTB, correspondence or server-based) play, I have seen this done many times, and often have seen the remark accepted in the spirit in which it was offered. One instance I will not forget was when Virginia State Champion Rusty Potter was playing Jim Slagle -- a blind player who was also an AI expert. Potter was a rook pawn and a bishop up, but the position was a well-known book draw. Everybody guessed that Potter felt that a blind player might lose his way in what was an elementary draw. Slagle smiled, and in his own time (in OTB play that is an important factor) said, "I do know how to draw this position." A couple of minutes later, Potter shook his head and offered the draw.

Back when IYT had active forums, there was a discussion about players that played on in hopeless positions or would not accept a draw when it was obvious it was. One person suggested that some players in a tournament are going through a busy period and want to delay the start of the next round. That is no excuse for rushing your opponent's next move, but a remark pointing out that the position is a dead draw, or even providing a reference is perfectly legitimate. Repeating the remark at every move is not. Clearly different players differ on this point.
Chess game extra time
Posted by map321map on 30 Dec 2014 at 10:34AM
I contacted management of this website about how my opponent secured an extra 24 hours when we had 3 day time limit. I am waiting for an answer. Game # 9260309.
map321map
     
Re: Chess game extra time
Posted by rabbitoid  on 30 Dec 2014 at 10:45AM
Welcome to the wonderful world of GT vacation management.
     
Re: Chess game extra time
Posted by Oakheart on 31 Dec 2014 at 11:59AM
All members have vacation days so unless your game was set to ignore vacation days then it is quite likely they used one. Platinum members vacation days kick in automatically. Below platinum you have to set the days up your self. IF you look at this person's profile it would say vacation such and such a days.
     
Re: Chess game extra time
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 31 Dec 2014 at 8:44PM
      this may help...
people can take a vacation day, depending on T. conditions...But
everybody that plays F or T has 2 days off each week...see options/Perf.
vacations and days off that ex[lains.
so a 3 day game/ is really a 5 day game...2 days off. 3+2=5.
To get a true 3 day games in your invites pick vacation time and days off ignored...now it does not apply.

I put out in that read...
     The rating I want to playxxxxxx.
I choose what I want to work on. If I say 1800 and 1400 answers...i write once and explain...second time I delete it...3rd..well...
ex. of invite
     1800's F rating only.  
      chess page history of 30 games to look at. 
       20 games give a F rating plus 30 more...I have 50 games and an established player.   
        will delete is put there sometimes.  
        saying F rating, means no unrated, or P ratings.
          I know you know all this but the invite will say vacation says and days off ignored. 
                                             Now you have a True ''3 day '' game.    
           
   

             
          
Re: Chess game extra time
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 31 Dec 2014 at 8:54PM
  Just looked at the game...you did win that number, and you had ''ignored too''.  
                              
               
Re: Chess game extra time
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 31 Dec 2014 at 9:03PM
                 rechecked...that was the reason...no ignored. 

                             any game I play...
                                  Rating I play.  
                               vacation time/days off ignored.
                                    loss of game.  
I also set the site computer to say ...cannot accept, ''loss of turn''.
Merry Christmas to all...
Posted by unbeatable on 25 Dec 2014 at 3:39AM
and to all some good knights Santa
     
Re: Merry Christmas to all...
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 25 Dec 2014 at 6:33PM
           ''HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL''   
Santa Wow!

Thumbs up
          
Re: Merry Christmas to all...
Posted by Oakheart on 26 Dec 2014 at 6:28AM
Amen cause my bishops are weak!
London Chess Classic Results
Posted by unbeatable on 15 Dec 2014 at 4:12PM
Anand won the classic event. Adams won the blitz event. Nakamura won the rapid event. Caruana finished last in 2 events and 2nd in the other
     
Re: London Chess Classic Results
Posted by FragileKitty  on 15 Dec 2014 at 4:50PM
Yay, Mickey!
men vs women Tournament for scot
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 10 Dec 2014 at 7:30PM
 has just started.
  men invite the women.   
      I have mailed all the men to invite the Women.
              just click on the highlite.
                                 GOOD LUCK TO ALL!
Two Eras Of Chess
Posted by unbeatable on 9 Dec 2014 at 3:31AM
1.Without ratings
2.With ratings

Agree? Disagree? Don't give a ****?
     
Re: Two Eras Of Chess
Posted by Lion Rampant on 9 Dec 2014 at 4:49AM
Ratings are a good thing as they give an indication of a players
skill level but long ago ratings weren't needed. Philidor then Morphy and following him,
Anderssen then Steinitz were the acknowledged best players of their time. Back then,a chess players
adeptness was dependent on their tournament record and this should hold true even today.
The ELO rating system,while good as a yardstick,is not conclusive. As an example, the 'Match of the Century' Tournament held in Belgrade in 1970
where a 10 member Soviet team played against a Rest of the World consortium. According to the ELO grading list at that time,Fischer would have to
play on top board but he had been inactive for two years whereas Denmark's Bent Larsen had been continuously in action in the
years immediately preceding the World event,winning several great tournaments. The Dane threatened to withdraw unless he was given the
top board placing. For a time,it seemed like an impasse had been reached until,to everyone's surprise,Fischer agreed to play 2nd
board scoring an impressive 3-1 against former World Champion Tigran Petrosian.
          
Re: Two Eras Of Chess
Posted by APINK on 9 Dec 2014 at 7:37AM
so Morphy is the King of all Kings?
               
Re: Two Eras Of Chess
Posted by Stmhawk  on 9 Dec 2014 at 11:21AM
Not on here, lower ranked players go down 10 points when beating higher ranked players and higher ranked go down when losing lower ranked by one or two points
                    
Re: Two Eras Of Chess
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 9 Dec 2014 at 12:03PM
  read options section/ratings/points/bully rule/based on a 400 point ratio.
           it the site pc sees you picking on a lower rank...you are a bully.
                  you can lose up to 27 points...
                 this is why my F invites say for ex.  1800 or higher/
                            F rating only.
                             game page history of 30 games.
                             I will delete. If the person ignores what the invite 
                              is asking for and takes it...that is disrespect/ I delete.
ex. my invite asked for 1700-2000...twice 2 people accepted with 1699, one point...so I accepted...won both games and the scores remained unchanged...at 1700, I would have gotten 1-3 points...so one point makes a difference. I never play Unrated. no game history.
too many times I have played, won the game and lost points...but now I know.
everyone should read this section, about how the site pc and system here on GT function...you can win, and still lose points.
I t says the scores that is punished the most in point loss is 2100 rating ? doesn't say why.
I used to put out lots of F chess invites a couple years ago(like chess/dice now)...then I would have to write the person and explain, why I can't play,(I am playing for rating points), and they kept the game going...they are all chumped from back then///
If my invite asks for a 1800 rating///why would a 1400 rating answer it...I am asking for 1800 and not 1400.
                                you got to love it...games on a game site.
                      don't see your rating...go turn it on.    
please read the persons invite, and respect what they ask for...I mean anybody...hope this helps more people understand...the system here. It is good reading and explains...notice everybody plays Tournament games...against established ratings...

Thumbs up Knight Jarlynn
          
Re: Two Eras Of Chess
Posted by Guanarteme  on 9 Dec 2014 at 9:32AM
> Ratings are a good thing as they give an indication of a player’s skill level but long ago ratings weren't needed.

Ratings are a tool. Their use can be a good thing or a bad one, depending on how they are used. I am personally a hater of ratings. I can produce two dozen arguments against ratings and two dozen in favor of them. I am particularly bothered by their effect on team matches, by sandbagging, by cases where an isolated population (e.g. prison) develops unrepresentative ratings, and by such an emphasis that players are asked their rating before their name. I also recognize that they serve a purpose in pairings, but I admit I am angry at some of their effect in settings where I have been close to the limits (upper or lower) of my class.

Are they good at the highest levels? I would rather argue based on game quality than know “indisputably” based on a single number.
               
Re: Two Eras Of Chess
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 17 Dec 2014 at 11:26PM
 you might like this...
                 Karate and chess have a lot if the same thinking in confronting daily life.
                  On Tournaments, it is like chess/pro level/money.
                  Winning is not everything......."IT IS THE ONLY THING"!  
                       "TO COMPETE IS TO WIN"!     

Master Funakoski(Founder and who created the style/Shotokan....became so disturbed that he wrote the following...which is still in motion in 2014 in Martial Arts. He wrote....
                              
                                          Do not think so much about winning
                            rather....: think more of not losing:.
                    He wrote this because Karate, is a life style, mind-set.
                                SELF DEFENSE is only a part of the whole.
                          and  students, might lose insight, of this fact.   
If you are in Tournament or self defense training and you are not sure about winning 100%...you have already
lost, before it even began.    In Contests, you are competing...
                                     TO COMPETE IS TO WIN   

In the old fays there was no ranking systems...it was teacher and student...and if you made a mistake in class, you got hit...(Bamboo stick/ 4 pieces together/like in Kendo)._ there were just students...some studied a short time, others studied a longer time...ranking gives you a system, and away, to measure, and see your progress; as the only enemy, you have in life, to compete against, and test yourself... and challenge yourself, is...your-self
women vs men chess match on GT
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 30 Nov 2014 at 6:24PM
                right now we have 16 men and 8 women fighters.
                     we will be closing off the men's section real soon.
Where are you " Lioness Fierce Hunters", who fear nothing. Bow Men Thumbs up
                                12/10/14      WED  9:00am   
                              [ The Women vs The Men Chess Tournament ] 
This Chess tatic is "A Few Good Women"! Ship
     
Re: women vs men chess match on GT
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 7 Dec 2014 at 4:48AM
  FOOTNOTE TO TOURNAMENT   
        Men's section complete.
         WOMEN'S section has openings.
         TEAM STANDINGS~~~AT PRESENT~~~       WED  12/10/14  9:00am

              We have 15 Men.
              We have 9 Women.         
                      
This Tournament was to Honor my co-Founder, SCOT of the NAA...Golden Club Muggers, when the site first opened. His name was Luctruc ...and all the Great NAA Muggers we had in the club. A Special place.
I would like to Thank Mary aka Badger, again, for her permission, for allowing me to to this Tournament. ps...Mary was and is a NAA Original Mugger.
I would also like to greatly thank Melisa aka heyred72 for her help, and guidance, in putting this together.
                                   6 Good Women more   
                                  ~~~WE WANT YOU~~~                                              
          
Re: women vs men chess match on GT
Posted by Kat  on 7 Dec 2014 at 11:46AM
Plus the games are going to be unrated.. should be fun.. Smiling
               
Re: women vs men chess match on GT
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 7 Dec 2014 at 1:09PM
   This is new...Men vs Woman...as Scot liked new ideas, to consider.
This to honor his passing, will hopefully start, a new experience for future events...I have other ideas too.
              Once upon a Time ...:It was the in place, and the BEST place.
It was Magic Valley, where the tall dancing trees brushed the sky in a deep, deep blue.
this is a Copyright idea for other reasons to follow... <><>
                                       ~~~thanks Kat~~~
What famous player
Posted by MikeRoane on 28 Nov 2014 at 7:47PM
You can go on you tube and see and hear Capablanca in a small clip. Also Alekhine. He had a very high pitched voice.
What Famous Player....
Posted by unbeatable on 28 Nov 2014 at 6:39AM
(apparently) consumed mass quantities of milk during games?
     
Re: What Famous Player....
Posted by Dionysos  on 28 Nov 2014 at 7:13AM
After winning the world championship title from Alexander Alekhine in 1935, Max Euwe did something rare -- he voluntarily gave his opponent a rematch, without putting obstacles in the way or seeking a weaker opponent to play first.

The rematch took place in Holland in 1937.

It may be hard to believe now -- since Alekhine is seen as one of the best players ever -- but at the time, Euwe was considered a strong favorite. The public did not rate Alekhine's chances too highly because he was seen as a washed-up alcoholic.

But there was something that neither the public nor Euwe knew: in the intervening years, Alekhine had bought a cow.

What this meant was that Alekhine was drinking fresh milk, straight from that cow, rather than his usual vodka, whiskey, or whatever.

http://www.chess.com/article/view/clash-of-champions-alekhine-vs-euwe-1937-rematch
          
Re: What Famous Player....
Posted by Dionysos  on 28 Nov 2014 at 7:23AM
Now - what chess grandmaster is also a very good football player?
          
Re: What Famous Player....
Posted by Lion Rampant on 28 Nov 2014 at 12:49PM
When Alekhine lost the world title to Euwe,the shock to the former was salutary. He disciplined himself to stop
drinking in preparation for the return match and,thus able to think with a clear mind,Alekhine easily regained his crown.
          
Re: What Famous Player....
Posted by Guanarteme  on 28 Nov 2014 at 1:27PM
I heard a claim from a person who was perhaps in a position to know, but who had a reputation for anything but honesty. The claim is that Alekhine bet a large sum on Euwe on the first match. He also had an iron-clad agreement to have a rematch, which might explain why Euwe wanted it out of the way as soon as possible. Thus, my source claims, Alekhine threw the first match (perhaps only by letting alcohol do the job for credibility's sake). He later stuck to milk and played to win in the second match.

My source: International Master Norman T. Whitaker, convicted extortionist who pretended to have the Lindbergh baby and was convicted of several crimes. I knew Whitaker around 1970. as did a good friend of mine now deceased. Whitaker told each of us the same story. Alekhine was a known alcoholic, wife beater, and Nazi collaborator, so the story is quite possible. What I am certain is that Euwe had no knowledge of the scheme,if that is what it was. Euwe had a deserved reputation for impeccable integrity.

Throwing a match is subjective, so I will pose a more objective question. Did Alekhine bet against himself on their first match? Or was Whitaker, in his old age (79 to 80), wanting to enhance his stature by pretending to knowledge he did not have? I honestly do not know. Both men are long gone and I do not know if evidence exists one way or the other.
               
Re: What Famous Player....
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 28 Nov 2014 at 3:09PM
Alekhine's collaboration with the Nazis was his participation in their chess tournaments. The thing is Alekhine's French wife was in their custody and her continued good health depended on his cooperation.
     
Re: What Famous Player....
Posted by unbeatable on 28 Nov 2014 at 7:37PM
I was looking for the name of Robert J. Fischer
          
Re: What Famous Player....
Posted by Lion Rampant on 29 Nov 2014 at 4:41AM
Of course! Fischer was the only chess GM who didn't have an
academic background(!) Smiling
2863
Posted by MikeRoane on 26 Nov 2014 at 9:23AM
Really? I did not know that bit of chess trivia. Thanks, Unbeatable.
2863
Posted by MikeRoane on 26 Nov 2014 at 5:09AM
Robert James Fischer holds the longest number of wins in a row [20]. I remember that when that occurred they calculated his rating at over 3,000. On Chess.Com they had a computer match up World Champions in an imaginary tournament. Anyway, Fischer won the tournament. Kasparov was second and Carlson was third. Of course, this is all speculation.
     
Re: 2863
Posted by unbeatable on 26 Nov 2014 at 9:11AM
Steinitz won 25 straight
     
Re: 2863
Posted by APINK on 26 Nov 2014 at 9:22AM
cool thanks for the info. I feel sorry for Fischer. He had a disability and social problems that needed addressing. He should have played more games. Where can I find the article on Fischer about his 3000 rating. I never seen it on chess.com
2863
Posted by APINK on 26 Nov 2014 at 5:01AM
wow that i s a crazy rating for magnus and Caruana is 2839. It's a shame Fischer refused to play any games and retired. I believe his rating was 2785. I wonder which of these gentleman can reach 3000 first.
World Championship 2016...
Posted by unbeatable on 25 Nov 2014 at 4:22PM
will allegedly happen in the USA
World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by MikeRoane on 24 Nov 2014 at 7:55AM
Actually, Dionysos, for having not started chess until you were 25, that is doing outstanding. People tell me that I am "outstanding". Yep, that is where they found me---"outstanding in my field" [3.6 acres]
     
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by Dionysos  on 24 Nov 2014 at 8:24AM
Yes, or a legend in my own lunchtime!
When I was working in a department store, my boss, who used to play for England as well, now unfortunately died, wanted me to give him a lesson, in his lunch break. Of course, I did, and chess grew from there.
My parents weren't interested, they preferred cribbage with a pack of cards.
          
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by APINK on 24 Nov 2014 at 10:44AM
Anand was playing so bad any of the top players here would have like 25% or more chance of beating him. I would even play him If the played like that every game.
     
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by Lion Rampant on 24 Nov 2014 at 3:13PM
They laughed when I sat down to play,but they really guffawed when I made my moves ..Smiling
          
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by Lion Rampant on 24 Nov 2014 at 3:17PM
"Your moves are just as good as mine,only you don't make them at
the right time"
19thC GM J.H.Blackburne to an amateur
               
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by APINK on 24 Nov 2014 at 4:47PM
lol
               
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by Lion Rampant on 25 Nov 2014 at 4:21AM
"It is not I who have won the game,but you who have lost it"
                                                        -V.I. Lenin Russian Revolutionary Leader 
               
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by Dionysos  on 25 Nov 2014 at 7:44AM
That was also said by Eric Morecambe, to André Previn, or, as Eric said, André Preview, when he was 'playing' Grieg's Piano Concerto, by Grieg!.

When he played, André said that he is playing all the wrong notes, Eric doesn't take the criticism well, informing him: "I'm playing all the right notes - but not necessarily in the right order."

I didn't think that joke was also used in the 19th century!
World Chess Championship
Posted by MikeRoane on 24 Nov 2014 at 5:28AM
I took no personal offense at that, Dionysos. I once ask a 2450 rated player [Chuck Schullien] what it took to get to be that playing strength. He said that you have to be able to play ALL positions at that strength. He said he would never be a grandmaster because he did not have the "gift". One of my friends watched grandmasters play at a large tournament. He said that grandmasters make it look easy to go through those 2450 rated players. I just know that Grandmasters are at a level FAR above me in chess understanding and ability. These guys have been playing grandmaster level since they were children. Its like "breathing" to them. It just comes naturally.
     
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by Dionysos  on 24 Nov 2014 at 5:46AM
I used to be a grade 1800, when I was in England, and a regular club player in both Stroud, Gloucestershire and Luton, Bedfordshire. But I was about 35 to 40 then, now I'm 71, I get lower and lower! But I never played at all until I was 25!
World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by MikeRoane on 24 Nov 2014 at 4:31AM
It is being said that Carlson plays "boring" chess. I recall that the same charge was made against Petrosian. My point is that Carlson like Petrosian sees the tactical complications so well that he avoids them. Adolf Anderson was once ask why he did not play the wonderful combinations he was able to play against Paul Morphy. He replied, "Morphy won't let me." Gary Kasparov has a nice article on the Berlin Defense. He claims that the Berlin Defense is not just and end game defense but is a tactical monster as well. I saw that same "boring chess" charge against Carlson on a chess.com article. Yes, it would be fascinating to watch every game end with a 20 move combination when the winner sacs his queen for a smothered mate but that is not reality.
     
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by Dionysos  on 24 Nov 2014 at 5:11AM
"Boring chess"etcetera etcetera.

Maybe they are - if you were playing, but you are not grand masters like them! And I was aiming that, not at MikeRoane, not anyone of the higher players in Goldtoken, but anyone who is not a grand master.
          
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by APINK on 24 Nov 2014 at 5:25AM
This is true but in game 11. Anand didn't look like a GM. He looked like a Class A player. He played awful. Laughing
Youngest USA GM ever...
Posted by unbeatable on 23 Nov 2014 at 5:32AM
is now Samuel Sevian Thumbs up
     
Re: Youngest USA GM ever...
Posted by Dionysos  on 23 Nov 2014 at 6:04AM
So, at 71, I don't stand a chance any more?!Ah well, keep playing regardless!
          
Re: Youngest USA GM ever...
Posted by unbeatable on 23 Nov 2014 at 9:34AM
perhaps you're immortal and will be the last human chess player ever
               
Re: Youngest USA GM ever...
Posted by Dionysos  on 23 Nov 2014 at 9:46AM
WELL, there are, unfortunately, less younger people who can even play chess - something to do with computer games, perhaps?
3 moves rule
Posted by Varanus Komodensis  on 22 Nov 2014 at 7:20PM
Hello, does the 3 moves rule work here on Goldtoken? I mean, if the players repeat same moves 3 times, it ends with a draw...
     
Re: 3 moves rule
Posted by heyred72  on 22 Nov 2014 at 7:45PM
"Draw by Repetition" will not automatically end a game. If it happens in your game, you first need to offer a draw on your next turn. Then, if your opponent declines the draw, you can send a PM to GoldToken Support  including the game number and they can take a look and end the game once they verify it. Smiling
          
Re: 3 moves rule
Posted by FragileKitty  on 22 Nov 2014 at 8:12PM
And it's reaching the same position three times (w/ same castling rights, person to move, en passant possibility), not necessarily all happening in succession (although it almost happens that way).
               
Re: 3 moves rule
Posted by FragileKitty  on 22 Nov 2014 at 8:17PM
although it almost *always happens that way
          
Re: 3 moves rule
Posted by cubs on 22 Nov 2014 at 9:02PM
It's astonishing that this universal chess rule has never been written into code here, year after year after year. Of course, it was only fairly recently that the "loss of turn" rule was modified a little - and of course, this rule has not and never has had anything to do with chess, any more than the infield fly rule does. Chess has been here at GT from the start, but very little attention has been paid to the interface, which looks like something from 1999. The rules and the set-up discourage new players and even those who are here already, and so the participation declines. Chess needs a real, useful overhaul soon. Losers upside down seven point battleboats does not...
               
Re: 3 moves rule
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 22 Nov 2014 at 10:14PM
cubs you knew Kingpin 1(Chess 4 Fun}taught me about Knights... ...remember when he debated with Chad(I think) to get percepual(sp) check noted as real, because his opponent would not take the draw.....this was in the very beginning...then the other draws came on
board...not all are in the system...but Stalemate is...
or the BULLY rule programmed in the sites computer...I think Chad may have put it in to stop software use because it started back then in 2000.

                 GOOD Points... 1999/ 6 mos later the club came here...
                        Jan 2000 from IYT.com  
                  and software was here then too with all other things...
the more sites that brought in chess helper things , the more people joined up for chess...now chess.com brings in deep \Rybka 4, and as a paid member you can use its puzzle solving board...ar the same time, if they get you they list your name...catch 22...
it may sound silly but a trade show day for all chess clubs telling everyone about their chess clubs would ...at the very least...LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEM....and they are here wanting members...
Knight Jarlynn
                                  
                    
Re: 3 moves rule
Posted by cubs on 23 Nov 2014 at 12:14AM
The problem with Chad then and the site now is that chess is not an informal table-top game, like many other games played here are. I remember a "mellow" poster saying that gee whiz, who'd want an opponent to lose because he/she forgot to move, or had to catch the moon shuttle, or shut the ISP off by mistake; so we'll dock them a move, a penalty known only here. A lot of the games we play here - popular games, whose devotees pay a good deal of the freight on this site- seem to be played that way quite often. Chess isn't that kind of game. The rules are quite firm and not something made yesterday. And chess players know this, and find the way chess is handled here silly and juvenile... it's not real chess. So they vote with their feet and join and stay at other, better-for-chess sites, or just quietly stop playing here. This is why the numbers are down and the clubs devoted to chess are fewer in number, fewer in members, and generally look a lot like dead. This condition will keep on keeping on until worthwhile changes are made and guests can see a real chess playing atmosphere here. No, I have no criticism at all of the other games; those criticisms are for those who play these games to make. And it's easily possible that the future of GT is a future without chess. If the site can't supply code in accordance with the easily accessible Official Rules and can't provide useful, up-to-date graphics and software, this seems a very likely result.
                         
Re: 3 moves rule
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 23 Nov 2014 at 1:03AM
very good Cubs... I was hoping it was only me, who thought that was the future of chess here...was started as chess clubs too...was the reason I kept returning...
you are not allowed to promote your club...with the little I did with chess/dice proves my point...It is Heartbreak Ridge, that was once, and may never be again...but it can be, if it was :Needed or :Wanted:
with near 300 games here, chess could be bigger, and not hurt the other games...we are a drop in the bucket...everybody knows and now every body, is now playing the other game...no one can speak without attacking themselves...But that is chess...if you don't move, you lose...period. It's really very simple. It is unique that chess was a game of war for invasions and the karate mindset of GO NO SEN is used by many Grand Masters(block and counter attack)...as slang as ::waiting for the kill::but it is the mind in always in a ready position.
both chess and martial arts strive deeply in discipline of the mind :and body: Both are compared to life itself and how we confront daily problems. I studied making ads and were with about 8/9 people
I got paid for my writing in selling a product...so if Chess was meant to get a tune up you have to have make the best and right move at the right time... Wish I could start a game/chess sheet where different chess clubs get interviewed(even in the newsletter each month).
in promotional ads there is never too much because the product is talked about.....the old schools were fly very low and very slow
just the opposite of real life...people learn as fast as they can pick things up... and I can add nothing to your words because i agree with you...and I want to find away to slow it down and reverse it...it is shrinking...and it could bring in a lot of people: over time...more memberships...enough said/ most people know and like what they can do here with chess on its small level...of you want to be big...Think Big
     
Re: 3 moves rule
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 22 Nov 2014 at 8:26PM
  heyred72 is 100% correct...
I have gotten this many times.
3 moves by both people the same 3 times::Anywhere:: in a game.
before or on your turn you message GT Surport that you are declaring draw by repetition and the give the moves and the numbers for both people.
declare a draw and tell your opponent why.
explain.
give where the moves are on the board. of the series of the 3 moves.
tell them that GT has already been messaged.
this is a sort of forced draw....
tell them to go to an official chess site and and read in the FIDE Laws and Rules of chess under draws.
Draw by repetition is draw by perpecual check which means there can never be a Checkmate and is forced to a draw.
GT plays by FIDE Rules which are the same as the the rules played by the PROS.
some people might think you are kidding them...so make sore you message GT help first.
I remember when en passant was not believed...lol.
please forgive spelling.
          
Re: 3 moves rule
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 22 Nov 2014 at 8:28PM
also castling and en passant can not not be a factor to stop your attempt.
World Chess Championship
Posted by MikeRoane on 21 Nov 2014 at 5:49AM
Games 7,8, and 9 have been draws. The only thing interesting was that game 7 lasted 122 moves. The longest game in history for the World Chess Championship. Carlson protects a 1 point led an is inching towards victory. Game 9 was another Berlin Defense to the Lopez.
     
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by APINK on 21 Nov 2014 at 6:12AM
I know If you was anand I know you wouldn't play e4 more than once. That's what Magnus wants. Fabiano Caruana is better than Anand. Anand is boring. Puzzled
     
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by unbeatable on 23 Nov 2014 at 9:32AM
the reign continues!
     
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by APINK on 23 Nov 2014 at 7:09PM
Anand lost the match. It's over. He played the Berlin again. I am Puzzled! The Berlin is a awful defense. Puzzled I hope they never give Anand another WC match. He is like the most boring player ever. He uses openings that don't work for him and he goes to the well and there is no water.
          
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by APINK on 23 Nov 2014 at 7:12PM
I know the best players on this site would not keep using the same opening If it is not working. I don't get it. Anand is a GM and he is like clueless. Sad
               
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by cubs on 23 Nov 2014 at 7:47PM
Does it occur to you that Carlsen is a better, stronger player than Anand?
                    
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by APINK on 23 Nov 2014 at 7:54PM
I agree with your point there but. The Berlin is Carlsen's best known opening. I don't understand why Anand don't try something new? Puzzled I know you would not use the same opening over and over again like a scratched up CD
                         
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by cubs on 24 Nov 2014 at 1:24AM
Oh, it happens again and again. Remember the WC< where every game - every game! - was a QGD Slav?
                              
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 24 Nov 2014 at 9:19AM
Yes, tell us about the Capablanca - Alekhine match cubs! Smiling
Chess/Dice tactic
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 20 Nov 2014 at 2:17PM
           The most powerful chess tactic in "Chess/Dice"~~~is not knowing~~~what
your next move will be~~~before you roll the dice~~~Wow!
bet on a number and roll the Dice out loud, that is is what it feels likes when you don't know the number before hand....that is "Chess/Dice:"!
 
(unknown photo) (unknown photo) Thumbs up (unknown photo) THE ORIGINAL CHESS AND DICE CLUB ON GOLD TOKEN Club
World Championship
Posted by MikeRoane on 15 Nov 2014 at 11:01AM
Carlson wins the 6th game . Carlson had the advantage then makes a mistake but Anand blows the win . After the game, Carlson remarked that he was "lucky".
     
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 15 Nov 2014 at 11:56AM
What move did Anand have a win?
     
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 15 Nov 2014 at 12:09PM
I think next year's title game will be CHESS NUCLEAR WAR. I can't wait for 2015.
     
Re: World Championship
Posted by Lion Rampant on 15 Nov 2014 at 10:36PM
I watched this game online.....it was like watching paint dry...(!)
Pointless moves on both sides. Performances like this aren't a good
advertisement for chess...Sad Come back Alekhine and Tal... chess needs you !!!
          
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 16 Nov 2014 at 3:57AM
Throw your main into the Chess game and show Anand how to Crush Carlsen.
     
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 20 Nov 2014 at 10:15AM

Anand is playing right into Calsen's game with E4. =Why does he not play a off the wall opening. Puzzled

          
Re: World Championship
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 20 Nov 2014 at 12:00PM
maybe because off the wall openings are not very good.
               
Re: World Championship
Posted by FragileKitty  on 20 Nov 2014 at 12:22PM
And there's plenty of room for innovation in the main openings.
               
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 20 Nov 2014 at 1:31PM
I agree but maybe openings that he has not used before? . There is f4. C4 and for black Anand could try d6 and e6? To play the opening Magnus is happiest with I think is just boring and it just looks like Anand don't really want to win. He exchanged queens in like 3 games. This is what I mean.
World Championship
Posted by MikeRoane on 14 Nov 2014 at 1:47PM
Game 5, a Queen's Indian, ended in a draw. Carlson held on to draw The pull Vishy had was not enough to win.
     
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 14 Nov 2014 at 2:25PM
I would keep playing Queen's Openings If I was Vishy to stay away from Magnus and his Berlin Defense. There has to be other Queen's openings for Vishy. The winner will play Fabiano Caruana next yr. He is on a Roll! He might be the 1st 3000 FIDE player ever.
          
Re: World Championship
Posted by Lion Rampant on 14 Nov 2014 at 3:19PM
I wonder if Caruana would dare to take on "Deeper Blue"(?). Kasparov couldn't live with it Smiling
               
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 14 Nov 2014 at 3:27PM
speaking of which has Magnus played a computer?
                    
Re: World Championship
Posted by Lion Rampant on 15 Nov 2014 at 1:42AM
Don't think so....he might...if the price was right...(!) Smiling
                         
Re: World Championship
Posted by Lion Rampant on 15 Nov 2014 at 1:45AM
In the 1960s Ex world champion Botvinnik predicted that,in future days,
computers would be able to beat grandmasters..it proved to be prophetic....
                              
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 15 Nov 2014 at 5:39AM
It's a unfair match. A computer never gets tired If a computer ever malfunctions the match should be resigned by the Company who made the computer. Queen
                                   
Re: World Championship
Posted by rabbitoid  on 15 Nov 2014 at 7:02AM
If a computer ever malfunctions

wahahahaha, hold me I'm choking with laughter. APINK, you've just made my day
                                        
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 15 Nov 2014 at 7:13AM
Hey it can happen. A guy from a foreign country can try to hack it and give it a Virus. Laughing
                                             
Re: World Championship
Posted by Dionysos  on 15 Nov 2014 at 7:44AM
ONLY a guy from a foreign country?
                                                  
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 15 Nov 2014 at 7:45AM
or many guys.
                                                       
Re: World Championship
Posted by Oakheart on 15 Nov 2014 at 12:42PM
Five guys and one women!
     
World Championship game 6
Posted by APINK on 15 Nov 2014 at 5:55AM

Vishy should have castled move 7. He might lose game 6 now.

     
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 15 Nov 2014 at 10:42AM
Vishy loses game 6. He messed up on move 7.
World Championship
Posted by MikeRoane on 11 Nov 2014 at 1:36PM
Anand won the 3rd game, a Queen's Gambit. The match is now tied against Carlson
     
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 11 Nov 2014 at 2:27PM

wow amazing. =I thought VISHY was dead. Queen

          
Re: World Championship
Posted by Dionysos  on 12 Nov 2014 at 12:22AM
no, he is only 44, and as far as I know, has never been in an accident or a serious injury, or on a life support in hospital. If you look at his Google, you will know he isn't dead!
               
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 12 Nov 2014 at 6:12AM

lol

               
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 12 Nov 2014 at 6:15AM

Magnus for some reason is not playing well. =I think Kasparov at 22 is better than Magnus now. =I think even Fischer at 26 is better than Magnus.

               
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 12 Nov 2014 at 6:29AM

If Magnus were to lose his title Fabiana Caruana would be his biggest road block in recapturing his title. He hasn't done well against him.

     
Re: World Championship
Posted by unbeatable on 12 Nov 2014 at 8:21AM
In game 4 Vishy missed 34...Qxd3 Sad
          
Re: World Championship
Posted by cubs on 12 Nov 2014 at 10:06AM
He did?
               
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 12 Nov 2014 at 12:01PM

It's not 2 to 2. First to 6.5 wins.

               
Re: World Championship
Posted by unbeatable on 14 Nov 2014 at 6:46AM
Good thing too as he would've lost his Q for a N
                    
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 14 Nov 2014 at 9:09AM
This might come down to 10 minute rapid chess sudden death in game 13. If Magnus does retain his tile. I doubt he will defeat Fabiano Caruana. He lost to him bad in the last tournament.
     
Re: World Championship
Posted by APINK on 14 Nov 2014 at 4:31AM

Magnus is playing awful. =He is making mistakes that a player of his rating should not make. =I can't believe it.

World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by MikeRoane on 10 Nov 2014 at 5:29AM
The first game ended in a draw. It was a Grunfeld Defense. Carlson won the second game. It was a Lopez.[Berlin Defense. Carlson played 4.d3. He then took the knight on c6 with his bishop without black having played Pa6.
     
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by APINK on 10 Nov 2014 at 8:13AM

Vishy will never be WC again. He needs to retire and be with is wife and kids.

          
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by Lion Rampant on 10 Nov 2014 at 11:04AM
Never say never..... I think the man still has a hunger. Smiling
               
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by APINK on 10 Nov 2014 at 12:14PM

Fabiano Caruana is the only 1 who can beat Magnus. Maybe 2 years from now Yifan Hou her rating is finally almost 2700. She finally trying harder. =She needs to be not content with being Women's World Champion. =She has potential to be in the inner zone top 8 Tournament. =Just like me I am not content with being 1500. =I will try to raise my rating. I want to play in real tournaments If they come to my area or mail in CHESS. I want a Official rating! =I had many time outs.

               
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by APINK on 10 Nov 2014 at 12:16PM
Game 2 was a bore. Magnus is a head 1.5 to .5 percent. He crushed Vishy game 2.
                    
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by Lion Rampant on 10 Nov 2014 at 2:34PM
I wonder if there will ever be an 'absolute' World Chess Champion i.e. a
holder of both men and women's titles simultaneously(?)
                         
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by APINK on 10 Nov 2014 at 3:02PM

If the top 8 women would want to be mixed in the inner zones. It' would be like CHESS FRENZY! JUDIT retired. =She unfortunately never became over all WC.

                         
Re: World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by cubs on 10 Nov 2014 at 5:22PM
There is and always was. The World Championship is open to all, regardless of gender.
The Women's World Championship is limited by gender.
                              
World Chess Championship 2014
Posted by APINK on 10 Nov 2014 at 6:39PM

It be nice to see a woman play for the WC 2 years from now. Queen

Caruana Fabiano vs Magnus
Posted by APINK on 30 Oct 2014 at 12:47PM

I think next yrs WC will be between these 2 CHESS heavy weights!

     
Re: Caruana Fabiano vs Magnus
Posted by unbeatable on 30 Oct 2014 at 1:08PM
I think the next WC will be in 2016
          
Re:Fabiano Cariana vs Magnus
Posted by APINK on 30 Oct 2014 at 4:34PM
Yes; Magnus will not be 15 yr World Champion.
NEW TOURNAMENT TACTIC FIRST TIME
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 18 Oct 2014 at 6:17PM
            
                 This is a non-rated tournament.
Women vs the men of Gold Token and is unrated.
you win by number of won games in a 3 round match with a tie breaker if needed.

The Women vs The Men Chess Tournament ]                   

start date is WED....Dec. 10th and a chess/dice Tournament also on the way.
Pumpkin sunshine
                              
Re: Judit Polgar is...
Posted by unbeatable on 18 Oct 2014 at 7:00AM
She holds the women's record for longest reign at the top of the ratings. About 25.5 years so far.
Wesley So...
Posted by unbeatable on 18 Oct 2014 at 6:58AM
won the Millionaire Chess Open
Someone...
Posted by unbeatable on 27 Sep 2014 at 4:59AM
on a correspondence chess site has made 1M moves.
     
Re: Someone...
Posted by cubs on 27 Sep 2014 at 10:22AM
I don't think that's something to write home about. I'm not an addict, but where I play most of my bitz chess (I started in 2001) I hae played about 31K games. and if my average number of moves per game were thirty five, I guess that's a million. There are payers there who have played vastly more games than I have. And correspondence players often have xeveral hundred games going on simultaneously...
     
Re: Someone...
Posted by Dionysos  on 27 Sep 2014 at 10:24AM
...in one game???
          
Re: Someone...
Posted by unbeatable on 1 Oct 2014 at 1:53AM
No. In many games in about 9 years.
               
Re: Someone...
Posted by Lion Rampant on 1 Oct 2014 at 4:08AM
They are clearly a devotee....(!) ;)
                    
Re: Someone...
Posted by unbeatable on 6 Oct 2014 at 2:24AM
another has also reached that milestone
                         
Re: Someone...
Posted by Lion Rampant on 6 Oct 2014 at 7:14AM
I said 'devotee'...'fanatic' would be a more accurate description....(!)
     
Someone...
Posted by APINK on 27 Oct 2014 at 9:38PM
someone take my open invite.
     
Re: Someone...
Posted by APINK on 28 Oct 2014 at 7:41AM
I have a open seat.
A draw - or is it?
Posted by Dionysos  on 22 Sep 2014 at 12:45PM
I tried a draw. My opponent also wants a draw, but for some reason, Goldtoken doesn't!!!

A DRAW has been offered. Do you want to accept the draw?
     Yes       No

I agreed, but it doesn't work!

game #9174353
     
Re: A draw - or is it?
Posted by FragileKitty  on 22 Sep 2014 at 1:41PM
After the first offer, it shows you made a move. Try to accept this one?
          
Re: A draw - or is it?
Posted by Dionysos  on 22 Sep 2014 at 5:41PM
I did, at the end.
     
Re: A draw - or is it?
Posted by Rogue Trooper on 22 Sep 2014 at 3:41PM
Did you type AGREE in the box they added at the top of the page?
          
Re: A draw - or is it?
Posted by Ray of Light  on 22 Sep 2014 at 3:43PM
Good one.
          
Re: A draw - or is it?
Posted by Dionysos  on 22 Sep 2014 at 5:40PM
Yes, twice at least!
               
Re: A draw - or is it?
Posted by Lion Rampant on 22 Sep 2014 at 6:14PM
Suggest you report this to Goldtoken Support. It sounds like there's
a glitch in the system.
                    
Re: A draw - or is it?
Posted by Dionysos  on 23 Sep 2014 at 12:02AM
No, I am an idiot! In my haste, I said "AGREE" instead of "AGREED"!!!!!
Chess Team
Posted by MikeRoane on 17 Sep 2014 at 3:21PM
Comedian Woody Allen said that he once tried out for his high school chess team but the coach told him he was too small!
     
Re: Chess Team
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 17 Sep 2014 at 3:40PM
I guess he was not the same as everybody else...<><>
Morphy
Posted by MikeRoane on 17 Sep 2014 at 5:43AM
I read about one amusing story about Morphy. Morphy played before there were clocks. Anyway, one of his opponents had a totally lost game and he refused to move. Finally, after hours had past, a frustrated Morphy gave his opponent a questioning look. His opponent responded, "Oh, Is it my move?"
     
Re: Morphy
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 17 Sep 2014 at 2:45PM
      Mike that is great...I love it...<><>        
new chess dice tatics
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 13 Sep 2014 at 12:17PM
                  I have found new  tactics in chess dice....<><>      
                            
                                    seems to be an improvement  for those who play.
                                  
Pawn Sacrifice...
Posted by unbeatable on 12 Sep 2014 at 1:45PM
was or is being shown at the Toronto film festival. Less than stellar reviews Sad
     
Re: Pawn Sacrifice...
Posted by Ray of Light  on 12 Sep 2014 at 2:59PM
Really? I was hoping for it to be more popular.
Morphy
Posted by MikeRoane on 11 Sep 2014 at 11:12AM
Good example, Rabbitoid, After Staunton refused to play him Morphy just went off the deep end.
     
Re: Morphy
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 11 Sep 2014 at 12:18PM
he went on to defeat several other masters including the great Adolf Anderssen
          
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 14 Sep 2014 at 7:01AM
That was,primerally,the reason Staunton declined Morphy's challenge;he knew he was out of his
depth and Morphy would defeat him...badly.
               
Re: Morphy
Posted by cubs on 14 Sep 2014 at 7:21AM
Or maybe not. Staunton had a life as a critic. Morphy was a law graduate who never worked.
                    
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 14 Sep 2014 at 11:22PM
Morphy DID work...he was a chess professional. It was only after he gave up the game that he attempted
to return to the Bar. Ironically,he found this very difficult as he had,by then,become too famous as
as chess player...(!)
                         
Re: Morphy
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 15 Sep 2014 at 2:48AM
Morphy would be very angry with you for calling him a chess professional he considered such things beneath him. He had graduated from college early and passed the bar, but law did not allow him to practice law in Lousiana until he was 21 years old and he used that time to play chess.
Oddly enough it was chess that torpedoed he's law career.
                              
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 15 Sep 2014 at 3:37AM
I would be indifferent to Morphy's anger. The fact remains that he made his living from the game
through prize money gained from winning chess tournaments and sponsered matches Anyone who does this in any
game or sport is called a "professional" They are making a livelihood through their
chosed "profession". And the reason he wasn't allowed to practice law was because he was too young when he
graduated from Louisiana University in 1857.Chess was only intended to be a temporary pursuit until he became of legal age... but Fate intervened.
                                   
Re: Morphy
Posted by cubs on 15 Sep 2014 at 3:54AM
Actually, I think he graduated from Spring Hill College in Memphis.
He had no wish to be considered a chess professional, and he had enough money not to have to rely on the usual professional pickings. When he won his match with Loewenthal, he used his prize money to buy the newlywed Loewenthals furniture. He never wanted any sort of identity with the professionals of the day, busy making small change in cafes and coffee houses.
                                   
Re: Morphy
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 15 Sep 2014 at 4:31AM
His family was rich, He was strictly an amateur. You seem really misinformed about Morphy.
                                        
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 15 Sep 2014 at 7:54PM
I am not misinformed,I am quoting from reliable sources of information.....
Morphy's father,Alonzo,was a judge,hence the desire to follow in his father's footsteps,
and his uncle,Ernest Morphy,was a strong chess master thus pinpointing the basis of the
younger Morphy's interest in the game....
                                             
Re: Morphy
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 15 Sep 2014 at 8:02PM
How about this quote by Paul Morphy [taken from Chess Quotes] about himself. "Permit me to repeat what I have invariably declared in every chess community I have had the honor of entering, that I am not a chess professional player-that I never wished to make any skill I posses the means of pecuniary advancement-and that my earnest desire is never to play for any stake but honor."--
                                                  
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 15 Sep 2014 at 8:12PM
That sounds like a self effacing remark. Nevertheless,his chess career,while he was an active player,
speaks for itself. Morphy had no peer as a player in his day. Having convincingly defeated Anderssen,who was
no mean player himself,Morphy regarded a match with Staunton as the 'final frontier' Sadly,he was repeatedly
denied this and it was rumoured that this was the cause of his derangement in his last years....
                                                       
Re: Morphy
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 15 Sep 2014 at 8:28PM
a chess professional plays for money, and Morphy did not play for money. Speculation on his mental health and the causes if any have been made by people singularly unqualified to do so. gossip, and 150 year old gossip at that.
                                                            
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 15 Sep 2014 at 11:00PM
Morphy's close friend,Charles Maurian, wrote in a magazine in 1876 :- "As for the causes which have produced
in Mr Morphy this derangement of his faculties,it is the opinion of his doctors that chess is not one of them.
They have,I am told,recommended chess as a means of distraction and a change of thoughts. You know too,that for
ten or twelve years Mr Morphy has completely abandoned chess,and that he never indulged in the game to excess."
                                                                 
Re: Morphy
Posted by APINK on 16 Sep 2014 at 4:11AM
How good was Morphy's game compared to Fischer's and Kasparov's?
                                                                      
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 16 Sep 2014 at 4:33AM
That would be difficult to compare. However,the fact he was able to overcome the likes of
Anderssen.Paulsen and Harrwitz by substantial margins would be sufficient evidence that he was the strongest player of his
day. He was,in effect,World Chess Champion,even though that title was still a good half century off to become a reality.
                                                                           
Re: Morphy
Posted by FragileKitty  on 16 Sep 2014 at 6:09AM
Did Kasparov offer an opinion in his book series?
                                                                                
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 16 Sep 2014 at 11:19AM
No, simply because the title of Kasparov's book was "My Great Predecessors" i.e. former World Champions.
Morphy was not included as there was no such recognised title when he was at the zenith of his chess career. After
Morphy's self imposed exile from chess,Anderssen became acknowledged as the world's best player of the time
but Kasparov didn't include him either for the same reason.
                                                                                     
Re: Morphy
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 16 Sep 2014 at 11:46AM
The first book in the series devotes about 15 pages to Paul Morphy giving several of his famous games re-annotated by Kasparov. He also quotes several past masters on Morphy.
                                                                                          
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 17 Sep 2014 at 4:33AM
So Morphy was included in Kasparov's book series. He clearly,then,regarded Morphy as
a 'World Champion' of his era even though the title had no official recognition at the time. I stand corrected.
                                                                                               
Re: Morphy
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 17 Sep 2014 at 7:10AM
you are aware that he was held in such high regard that no one was willing to make the claim of being world champion until after his death.
                                                                                                    
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 17 Sep 2014 at 11:21AM
I find that very surprising,that Morphy was so highly venerated yet no-one was prepared
to afford him the ultimate accolade whilst he was still alive. He also was a most proficient blindfold player which
was a sensation at the time.....
                                                                                                         
Re: Morphy
Posted by cubs on 17 Sep 2014 at 12:34PM
I'm afraid being good at chess didn't matter very much in the society of the time. Morphy didn't want to be confused with card players, actresses and the like. The best players maintained their self respect by being something else entirely full-time. There was no official world championship back then.
                                                                                                              
Re: Morphy
Posted by APINK on 17 Sep 2014 at 12:40PM
What a pity he was not born 30 yrs later.
                                                                                                                   
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 17 Sep 2014 at 8:33PM
Yes indeed. I would have liked to have seen Morphy cross swords with the
likes of Steinitz,Zukertort,Blackburne,Spielmann etc.....
                                                                 
Re: Morphy
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 16 Sep 2014 at 4:57AM
Charles Maurian was in fact a childhood friend of Paul Morphy, but he was not a doctor and the doctors of the time were unable to diagnose Morphy's physical and mental condition. he was apparently somewhat paranoid and eccentric but otherwise functional. He has been the victim of a lot of unfounded speculation and many of the stories about him are just untrue, like his supposed fetish for women's shoes.
                                                                      
Re: Morphy
Posted by APINK on 16 Sep 2014 at 6:22AM
lol
                                                                      
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 16 Sep 2014 at 11:27AM
Two theories have been proposed for the cause of Morphy'a mental demise, a) frustration at Staunton's constant
ducking of a match with him b) Disappointment at having his proposal of marriage rejected by a young woman of whom he had
become enamoured as she would not wed "a mere chess player"
                                                                           
Re: Morphy
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 16 Sep 2014 at 11:49AM
both of these theories have long ago been debunked.
                                                                                
Re: Morphy
Posted by APINK on 16 Sep 2014 at 3:37PM
LOL Queen
                                                                                     
Re: Morphy
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 16 Sep 2014 at 4:19PM
laugh it up furball
                                                                                          
Re: Morphy
Posted by APINK on 17 Sep 2014 at 10:21AM
Laughing
                                                                                               
Re: Morphy
Posted by EsqKeeper on 17 Sep 2014 at 1:13PM
Chess has been known to be a Gentleman's Game. Although, many facets of it may arrive to discussions, up to debates and even disagreements, it can also start friendships and develop to long time friendships. When I was between life and death, in a hospital bed, my well wishers kept me with energy. Even gave my focus back in a tournament under my name while in recovery. My chess prowess may have declined, but my friendships and loyalty stood solid and growing!

Focusing back on career versus chess, I had an option to do the same. I love the game so much, but my profession is what is keeping my financials afloat. My selection was sound. But yet I have met so many good friends, Mike in Chess4Fun - who is more than a brother to me and so many others. C4F is a family, come and see us, pay us a visit. Even challenge us in a match, if you will. In an additional positive manner, so is Badger and her team too. Thank your for years of service! Folks, we are all family here... Smiling

Let's play chess y'all,

EsqKeeper (Nes)
                                                                                                    
Re: Morphy
Posted by Lion Rampant on 17 Sep 2014 at 8:48PM
Chess has also been known as the "Royal Game" Many monarchs in history played the game as a pastime.Many
beautiful chess sets which are now in museums were made as visiting gifts. As for the comradeship,
the motto of FIDE,the game's governing body,is a fitting one. GENS UNA SUMUS- "We are one race"
Fischer's Mental Illness
Posted by MikeRoane on 11 Sep 2014 at 10:34AM
Wilhelm Steinitz once spat at Blackburne. He thought he could move the pieces by telekinesis and he believe he could give God pawn and move and still win. Capablanca would not resign unless the tournament director first cleared the chess hall. Alekhine suffered from antrophobia [fear of people] and would hide in a corner until his opponent moved.He also resigned by throwing his king across the room. Nimzovitch once stood on a table and screamed, 'Why must I lose to this ^%%idiot. He also would stand on his head during a chess game. He once complained about Lasker have a cigar in his hand. The director informed Nimzovitch that Lasker did not even had the cigar lit. Nimzovitch replied, "Yes, but everyone knows that the threat is worse than the execution." Carlos Torre would go naked in public. Rubinstein's wife told visitors not to stay long or the great Akiba would craw out a window [shell shock suffered during WWI]. Ivanchuck asked a waiter in a restaurant which chair was Kasporov's favorite chair. He wished to sit in in to get the aura of Kasparov. Kirsan Ilyumzhinov claims to have been abducted by aliens [he is not alone] and MikeRoane refuses to tell you his hang ups. Hey, we all have issues.
     
Re: Fischer's Mental Illness
Posted by rabbitoid  on 11 Sep 2014 at 10:52AM
Very good post since you didn't even mention Morphy, the obvious example. There are too many others.
Re: A champ amongst our midst
Posted by APINK on 11 Sep 2014 at 6:36AM
Class B?
World Chess Championship
Posted by MikeRoane on 8 Sep 2014 at 8:48AM
According to the Chess.com discussion forum, the World Chess Championship between Anand and Carlsen is set to go. Evidently, there were some contractual disputes that had to be resolved.
     
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by APINK on 11 Sep 2014 at 6:37AM

Magnus is not moaning over Money?

          
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 11 Sep 2014 at 12:19PM
don't care really
               
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by APINK on 11 Sep 2014 at 6:16PM
Yes; Not much fan fair this yr.
chess tarde show say or few days
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 7 Sep 2014 at 2:48PM
just a thought...........

               have a trade show ..
all the different clubs have a page to writes down A-z about their clubs...
why join
benefits
excitement watching a club grow.
renew interest/// to compete is to win.
promote your club.
how will people know you are there, if you do not let them know.
people have no reasons to join a club, because if this way worked, their would be matches...wouldn't there. Knight Jarlynn
you can't reinvent the wheel....Promote your club.
                              that is my opinion only. I was a trouble shooter.
Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Trist  on 7 Sep 2014 at 7:37AM
What happened to all the chess clubs that were once on GoldToken? There are few chess clubs remaining with sufficient members to enter a match. Has interest waned that much? It was always a tradition at GT to see a bunch of chess clubs bantering and challenging each other.
     
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Dionysos  on 7 Sep 2014 at 7:51AM
I still have Fighting Pawns - but all I can do is to ask two or three groups to play - it gets a bit trying after a time!
          
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Trist  on 7 Sep 2014 at 9:11AM
Thanks Dionysos! I think we're in an on-going match with your club. I miss the days when we were all jockeying for position and challenging each other right and left Smiling
               
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Dionysos  on 7 Sep 2014 at 9:25AM
So do I!!! And there are several chess only websites, some good, some bad - and a few atrocious!
                    
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Oakheart on 7 Sep 2014 at 7:07PM
we have out stalwarts but GT has not really been "the chess site" it was ten years ago. It was the one of only a couple now there are hundreds. Still we have at least three good active clubs.
                         
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by cubs on 7 Sep 2014 at 7:12PM
There is really no improvement in chess here - I mean the interface and options. All this could have been created fifteen years ago.
I fully realize that chess is small and shrinking here. The players of the other games pay the bills around here and should, as they do, stand first in line.
                              
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Sir Gilmour of the GoldTable on 7 Sep 2014 at 8:31PM
The demise of chess clubs has come, as cubs says, with the rise of other parts of the site and membership that isn't into the game here. It's frustrating, but a reality. My club still plays it, but being only one of three clubs with enough members for an interclub challenge, my interest in chess here at GT has diminished. But there are other games to play.
                         
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 7 Sep 2014 at 10:09PM
Yes...why did everybody leave..
.
look at all those 0's.
people come here and see nothing in chess...everything is hidden. 
promote your club. not you...but all the others not active.

I proved with chess dice promoting works.
 when BGH started the Tournament...chess dice was in every bodies mind.
that is why you buy products in the supermarket.

I haven't got a clue about the bully rule...it stops people from playing...
winners win and losers lose...you are not punished for winning...

when I help people I use an unrated game.......

if the pc was not there I could flood the open arena with kinds of invites.
tried before but, I am not going to play and lose points for a win or a loss that are way off.

if you expand chess, more people would take notices...another person left a couple days ago.
when people think chess they are not thinking GT and that is a shame.

everything is a secret...hidden...how is someone new surposed to know anything...looking at the chess clubs list is not working. fix it.

these clubs need someone to awaken them...get them excited...get them to talk about their clubs...there are no boards but one...
have several/ 2/3 boards where clubs can speak...you have to make things happen...

this is only my opinion...because maybe it is surposed to be this way...
but do nothing/ expect nothing/ and time will fade things away..
I studied this/was a trouble shooter/middle grade and I was darn good at it.
                         
           there are people who think...good
there are people who think...but then they ACT...on their ideas....they don't quit, they find a way. again this is only my opinion based on real life experience helping others...years of experience...your boat will never sail in you have to make things happen...that is the magic...<><>
                              
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Lion Rampant on 7 Sep 2014 at 10:17PM
Yawn.........
                    
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 7 Sep 2014 at 10:30PM
there are many chess clubs...this is a game site.
software sales are at an all time high according to fritz...please.com has 262,00 members/chess
chess.com
the 70 dollar a year sites to play with masters and grand masters from all across the world..
there was game knot there are sites where software is legal to against people with software.
even new brands vs new brands...but the point is THEY ARE NOT HERE...
My idea od a woman vs. the Men T is a first...already have people interested...it is fun, exciting, different...I am in the Susan polgar fan club...I can write letters for help to see the women win....not saying any names...a;; she can do/or they people can do is say no or ignore...but if I don't write the answer is no...you never know unless you try.
           when people are bored they do nothing...
the greater the boredom the grater the stimulation is needed..
          also a lot of people just want to play/no clubs...there is the challenge...
                       I'd love to see 20 to 30 chess clubs and Mary smiling.
                     Again this is only my opinion......
                         
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Trist  on 8 Sep 2014 at 3:51AM
Thanks to all of you for your responses!
     
Re: Where oh where have the chess clubs gone..
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 17 Sep 2014 at 8:52PM
I know one thing that would help...get rid of the sites bully rule of 400 points above your opponent...yes it is real. was always there I think.
see options/ratings.sites pc bully rule of high scores picking on low scores/ charts..other..explains/will punish a 2100 Rating more then any other....it is there/take a look.
that stops people putting out in invites...we left that question unanswered.
                  winners win and losers lose.    
                        you are not punished for winning...<><>   
World Chess Championship
Posted by MikeRoane on 7 Sep 2014 at 4:24AM
Nor do I know if ANY of what is being discussed on the general chess discussion forum at chess.com about Carlsen is even true or not.
World Chess Championship
Posted by MikeRoane on 7 Sep 2014 at 4:16AM
There is a discussion gong on at Chess.com that Magnus Carlsen may be stripped of his title. I have not read enough of it to understand why or very much of the details.
     
Re: World Chess Championship
Posted by APINK on 7 Sep 2014 at 5:33AM
did he cheat?
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Guanarteme  on 4 Sep 2014 at 8:59AM
Could I suggest that the problem is partly with the absence of a coherent definition of mental illness? If a person is delusional or his behavior is totally traced to a chemical reason, most of us feel comfortable calling it mental illness. But neurosis, eccentricity, and many other behavioral problems, are more difficult to classify.

In Chicago I met a player who was nice as can be when he was away from the board. Once the clock started, he began to utter a stream of obscenities that really scared me (I feared the cleaver would come out next). At the end of the session he stood up and congratulated me. Some of the other players called him "La Boca Grande" (the Big Mouth). I had to wonder whether he was just trying to unnerve his opponents. Fischer was not that far from there.
     
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Lion Rampant on 4 Sep 2014 at 1:02PM
You should have complained to the Tournament Controller.
Your opponent was in clear breach of the Laws of Chess section
which governs personal conduct. He would have been first warned to amend
his behaviour,if he still persisted,he would have be booted out of the tournament.
          
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by APINK on 4 Sep 2014 at 3:20PM
Fischer could have been champion in 69
          
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Guanarteme  on 5 Sep 2014 at 6:15AM
The example I gave was not from tournament chess. La Boca Grande and myself were among other regulars at the Chess Pavillion in Chicago. That did not make his behavior more or less pathological, but it did give the rest of us the choice of playing him or not.
               
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Lion Rampant on 5 Sep 2014 at 6:49AM
I read Fischer's blog on Wikipedia.com I found it interesting reading and it seemed to offer
reasons for his attitude problems in later life. He can hardly be blamed if the trauma and
privations of his youth so warped his character that he became a bitter,distant,suspicious and vitriolic man.
It's also ironic that the last country to acknowledge his genius as a player was his then adopted country,the USA.
It only fully recognised him after he became World Champion in 1972. Unsurprising,then,that he bore a grudge
against it until his tragic death; even choosing to be buried in a foreign country(Iceland) as a final snub.
                    
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 5 Sep 2014 at 2:57PM
Being good at chess does not excuse you from all the other responsibilities of being a human being.
                         
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 5 Sep 2014 at 4:50PM
he is a bigot besides other things... I have no use for anyone like that...<><>
                       
don't care about chess...when comparing the two. Knight Jarlynn.
                         
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by unbeatable on 8 Sep 2014 at 12:14PM
BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                              
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 8 Sep 2014 at 6:01PM
Fischer is a bigot...and a dangerous person who is unpredictable according to the rules of societity in a normal World...he could flip out at any moment...he is a risk taker, with no remorse, or respect, for human life. And nothing you can say will chsnge that...chess or no chess...
he is not normal, by the rules of a normal member of society.
are you saying, it does not bother you, that he is a BIGOT...<><>
who should live or die/ women rights...human beings rights.......
         Things are tough all over.......deal with it.
                                   
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Guanarteme  on 8 Sep 2014 at 6:53PM
Either Fischer is mentally ill or he is morally responsible for his bigotry. We do not hold persons with other kinds of illnesses morally accountable for their illnesses. Why the exception for the mentally ill?
                                        
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 8 Sep 2014 at 7:25PM
       I am saying that he is...<><>
                                             
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by APINK on 8 Sep 2014 at 10:08PM
I agree the things he said about Jewish People were sick. He laughed about 911. He had to be ill. It's too bad had he not been so mentally unstable he might have played CHESS more and been CHAMPION maybe 9 yrs. King
                                                  
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Knight Jarlynn  on 9 Sep 2014 at 11:37AM
if he was here(I know he can't be)...he would have been given help or proved his condtion was
real...
but see, if , say, he shot someone.ex. it would b better to fix the problem before something happens...but he believes and is proud of what he preaches...the point here is to hear the bell before it is rung,
if he is really sick...help him.
if he is not...stop him and then see what can be done.
In the USA he would have been sticking out like a sore thumb and help or other wie would intervene...
          I believe if someone is sick/ help them/
                if the at is truly the real person...stop him.  
                      but we will never know that in America per say.  
                            other countries, help people, all over the World.
                                             
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Dionysos  on 8 Sep 2014 at 11:13PM
People still, at least about two or three, that Fischer has a mental case.

Fischer is DEAD! He USED to have a mental illness, not he HAS one!
                                                  
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by APINK on 9 Sep 2014 at 5:24AM
Fischer is alive somewhere in our Universe.
                                                       
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Dionysos  on 9 Sep 2014 at 5:43AM
...and if you think that, you think anything!
                                                            
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by rabbitoid  on 9 Sep 2014 at 8:15AM
He doesn't think, he pinks.
                                                                 
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by APINK on 9 Sep 2014 at 2:06PM
It's my religion Fischer is alive somewhere.
                                                                      
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by rabbitoid  on 9 Sep 2014 at 3:05PM
With Elvis.
                                                                           
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by cubs on 9 Sep 2014 at 6:18PM
I heard the most astonishing rumor: that Elvis is DEAD and uried in Memphis.
People will post anything. Be careful; be suspicious.
Fischer could not return to the United States. He had committed a crime and had been indicted. He would have been arrested.
                                                                                
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Oakheart on 10 Sep 2014 at 6:54PM
any one ever walked a mile in his shoes? A brilliant man who went though a lot for sure.
                                                                                     
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by APINK on 10 Sep 2014 at 7:54PM
Yes; He did. He would have been safer to stay in his CHESS inner Circle instead of running through Los Angeles like a nomad.
                                                                                          
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Grimsweeper  on 10 Sep 2014 at 8:24PM
his choice GM Larry Evans owned a motel he could have stayed at rather than go homeless.
                                                                                               
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by APINK on 11 Sep 2014 at 6:08AM
agree
                    
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by cubs on 5 Sep 2014 at 6:10PM
OH, no, no, no. Fischer was in the popular news a good deal before he became world champion. He didn't make a fortune from it (and he often declined opportunities to make money) but he was pretty well known. THe US has very little interest in chess, but lots of people were interested in him. I remember it all well!
                         
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by map321map on 5 Sep 2014 at 6:28PM
You guys may want to search for the following article:
"A Psychological Autopsy of Bobby Fischer" By Joseph G. Ponterotto In Pacific Standard: The science of Sociey.

This is a long article and quite interesting.

map321map
                         
Re: Fischer's mental illness
Posted by Lion Rampant on 5 Sep 2014 at 10:26PM
I didn't say he wasn't known before he became World Champion,it was only when
he brought the world title to the US that the country really "woke up" to him.
He almost didn't play,it took a private talk with then US Secretary of State Henry
Kissinger and an increase in the prize fund by British financier James Slater
that finally swayed Fischer have a change of heart. I,too,remember it all well,
I was there at Rekjavik in the audience(!)

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